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Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I am happy the Deputy also asked about the PRTB. In the broad structure of where we are going on housing, and elaborating on my comments at the weekend, that is an area we will also be looking at from the point of view of resources.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: The protocol is working where it exists, but we are trying to roll it out further. It is in Cork now as well.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I will deal with the second point first. We have a project board and a site group which are dealing with the whole issue of HAP. We are nuancing it all the time and as we roll out the process we are learning more. We are taking on board what we learn all the time and are adapting to the new process. Ultimately it is the right direction to take, although one does not get everything...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: The Irish Examiner?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: There is quite a volume of questions across a wide range of topics.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I know that. The Chairman has always been beside me down through the years.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: Yes, I have a note of that. I have been down the road on this a few times before with Deputy Cowen. There is no robbery going on here. The €59 million, which was estimated to rise, is in the local government fund, as the Deputy knows. If this change had not been made, a global valuation would have been made, similar to other utilities. Certainly, the estimated rates bill would not...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I do not know but I will look into that for the Deputy. If it is possible, we will do it. I will ask the Minister of State, Deputy Phelan, to comment on the Commission for the Economic Development of Rural Areas, CEDRA, report. Deputies opposite would agree it is a great document and much work went into it. There is an allocation in that regard. Over the coming months, however, we will...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I will get that in a moment. The local property tax figure for 2014 was €491 million and for 2015 it is to be €440 million. Some 80% of the local property tax is retained locally to fund various public services. The remaining 20% has been redistributed to provide additional funding to certain local authorities, as the Deputy is aware. There have been lower property tax bases...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I read it out a moment ago. It was €491 million in 2014 and is to be €440 million in 2015.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: We are putting in €458 million to the fund this year instead of €440 million, so we are putting in €18 million as a top-up of the €440 million. The difference is between €491 million in 2014 to €458 million this year. The Deputy asked about motor tax and funding arising from that. Motor tax has always been paid to the Central Fund. There have been...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: The only swap is that instead of the funding going to 34 local authorities to provide water services, it is going to Irish Water. The Deputy subsequently referred to EUROSTAT and the water conservation grant. EUROSTAT has not delivered on this at all. If the Deputy has some commentary from EUROSTAT on this, I would like to see it. It is an independent body and it will give its...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: The local property tax yield is €440 million. There are gross motor tax receipts of €1.167 billion, with a payment from the Exchequer of €233 million.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: It is all laid out. There is the Irish Water subvention of €399 million, the local authority rates payment of €59 million, as we spoke of previously and other miscellaneous and various schemes of €75 million. I can provide a copy of the statement to the Deputy.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: It is on page 16 of the briefing.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: Deputy Catherine Murphy also asked about the local property tax. Absolutely all of it is used in local authorities. It is used, from an equalisation perspective, to ensure nobody is worse off.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I would say most of them saw increased funding. Any of them which are growing got more from the local property tax. It is a not a fund that we can fully control either. The idea is to ensure we have created a system with a floor based on fairness. That is what we did. It has been broadly accepted. The Deputy had a similar question to that of Deputy Stanley and we have outlined those...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: We can come back on that. The ESB will not be given extra resources to administer the grant and it will have to absorb that cost in its allocation. The water conservation grant will be done through a regulation. The Leader programme has been very successful and has made a great contribution throughout the country with regard to volume of schemes. Deputies opposite would agree with that...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: I apologise for overlooking that issue. The funding correlates precisely to the previous formula. To give an example, if €10,000 was development levies and €2,000 was water, the same ratio in respect of contributions will be adopted in the new system.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 34 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government (Revised)
(3 Mar 2015)

Alan Kelly: The €77 million in current expenditure and €77 million in capital expenditure cancel each other out.

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