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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Okay. Does it suit Mr. Kelly and his client to keep things ambiguous? We have heard many statements already muddying the water per se. When things become difficult, Mr. Kelly can place the blame back on RTÉ management. That is what is happening. That is what has happened in this area of the discussion.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly has been engaging with RTÉ for the last 23 years, is that correct? How many people does he represent?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: I want to clear up this matter of the raising of the invoices described as being for consultancy fees. Mr. Kelly stated previously that Ms Geraldine O'Leary and RTÉ were responsible.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: How is that?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Okay. Mr. Kelly was following instruction.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Therefore, did he collude with RTÉ in a falsehood of concealment of those invoices by labelling them as consultancy fees? That is a straightforward question.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly said he was following instruction.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Did he, therefore, collude with RTÉ in a falsehood of concealment by describing those invoices as consultancy fees?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: These were fraudulent accounting practices.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly followed instruction, however. Alarm bells were never raised with him when representing his client with regard to these invoices?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: With regard to the invoices-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: The former chief financial officer, CFO, described these as defrauding the taxpayer in his opinion. Does Mr. Kelly agree with that assessment?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does Mr. Kelly still see these invoices as being related to consultancy fees?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: They were as instructed. What were they for? What was the nature of them?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Did they describe what they were intended for?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does Mr. Kelly accept the complete lack of credibility in invoicing a company he had never heard of in a different country for work undertaken in Dublin?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly is not taking any responsibility for the oversight of Mr. Tubridy's earnings with regard to what we have been told in this committee room.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Is Mr. Kelly taking any responsibility in respect of the oversight of the dealings with Mr. Tubridy in relation to these invoices? He said he followed instructions from RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: His responsibility is on behalf of his client. Did he not proof-test each of the steps that were required?

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