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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Let us discuss the specific recommendations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I will call Deputy O'Donnell who has been waiting patiently and then I will conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is Mr. O'Connell indicating he would like to make a comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Mr. Sweeney indicated earlier that he would like to add a comment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Which of the witnesses wants to respond first?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: That concludes this afternoon's part of this module. If there is no other business I will now adjourn the meeting until tomorrow morning when it will continue its overview of the 2013 pre-budget submissions. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Business of Joint Committee (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The main business of this meeting is to continue our budget 2013 discussions with various civil society representatives and focus groups. The submissions received and a summary paper by the clerk to the committee have been circulated. Due to the workload and the number of committee meetings this week, it is proposed to hold over consideration of the minutes of the meetings on 7 and 9...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Business of Joint Committee (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: No, they are all lined up for this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Business of Joint Committee (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I expect all groups to be present and we are holding four modules.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Business of Joint Committee (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes, it is all laid out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: We continue with the committee's examination of the pre-budget submissions from representatives of civil society and focus groups. I welcome Mr. John Dolan of the Disability Federation of Ireland, Dr. Shari McDaid of Mental Health Reform and Mr. John Dunne of the Carers Association. The purpose of this engagement is not to have a detailed presentation of the budget submissions but to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I must ask Mr. Dolan to conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I welcome Mr. Pat the Cope Gallagher, MEP. He has a strong interest in this area and will probably discuss some of this morning's deliberations with his colleagues in the European Parliament.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I am sorry, but I will not engage in a broader rhetoric on budgetary proposals this morning. I would like us to focus on the Disability Federation of Ireland's views on its specific sector. What decisions could be made? Should there be a balancing between advocacy and service delivery? Are we spending too much money on advocacy or could we increase efficiencies for the end user of services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The document is broad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I want to push our guests this morning. That is why they are in attendance. We could drift off to the bar later and have a general discussion on the disability sector, but I want to hear from the agency about where efficiencies and better performances can be found and, if money is required, where do the priorities lie. Is the Disability Federation of Ireland a service provider or an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: It is an advocacy agency.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: How many disability organisations are there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: How many of those are advocacy groups and how many are service deliverers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives (9 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Please, Mr. Dolan.

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