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Seanad: Order of Business. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: Last night at the concert for the one and only Paul McCarthy, the actual programmes—

Seanad: Order of Business. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: It obviously was. They were called the Beatles in my time.

Seanad: Order of Business. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: At the "Resurrection" concert—

Seanad: Order of Business. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: —they charged €22 per programme, which is exorbitant. I express my thanks to the Consumers Association of Ireland. The Director of Consumer Affairs is not enthusiastic about my campaign.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: The Senator did not do so. Talk about a hypocrite.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: The Senator has some neck.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I welcome the Minister of State, but I cannot say that I welcome the passage of the Bill. The Minister of State – as I did – resisted the move to abolish the dual mandate when he held office in 1991. We did not succeed, however, and I waited eight years to be re-elected to the county council. The Bill is now going through its final Stages and, when enacted, it will be the Local Government...

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I appreciate that, but I would prefer it if the President, not Deputy Ring, referred the Bill to the Supreme Court. I do not want any Front Bench or backbench Fine Gael Member referring it to the Supreme Court.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: It is relevant to me because I want to know what my position will be before I am obliged to give up my seat on the local authority.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I know but I feel very strongly about this issue.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: Not yet. However, if I was a member of the Council of State, I would advise the President to refer the Bill to the Supreme Court.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: Proinsias De Rossa was a Member of the Dáil and the European Parliament.

Seanad: Local Government Bill 2003 [ Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil ] : Report and Final Stages. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: The Senator has made a good contribution.

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I welcome the Minister of State and wish the Bill well. I appeal to Members to expedite it as quickly as possible. All the professions affected by the legislation made a submission earlier to the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise and Small Business. Senator O'Toole is like the 16th member of the Government and has played an important role. He is president of the ICTU and an excellent...

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: It would not be possible for the Minister of State to accept the amendment at this stage and I would not recommend him to do so. A Bill is in preparation which will provide for the registration of architects, quantity surveyors and other professions. There are constitutional issues affecting such legislation. Although I did not discuss this with the Minister of State and did not get advice...

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I have great sympathy with Senator Quinn's submission which has a lot of merit. It seems logical. The legislation is becoming cumbersome and will be difficult to operate. Does the Minister of State envisage having a separate professional group for the professional directors of 30, 40 or 50 companies? There is no restriction confining them to that role in only one company. One possibility is...

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I agree with the Minister of State's amendment. For far too long there have been too many golden circle directors who seem to go from one boardroom to another for a glass of brandy and a chat. Look at the AIB. It did not seem to care what was happening in America and none of its directors resigned or took responsibility for it, yet when I go to that bank, it is overcharging me for services. I...

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: I would have scrutinised their affairs honestly. I got one offer from an organisation and perhaps I was wrong but I was too conscientious to get involved with it. I would not take responsibility for its activities. If one saw a full list of directors, there are about ten people in ten different companies in Dublin. They should do their jobs and resign from five or six of the companies...

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: So be it, if I am. Too often I have heard directors say they did not know the company was involved with the Mafia in New York, that it was polluting in Colombia or cutting down forests in South America, yet they have never said they would not accept remuneration or trips to the K Club or wherever they hold big events. This measure proves that Fianna Fáil is the real socialist party.

Seanad: Companies (Auditing and Accounting) Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (28 May 2003)

Terry Leyden: The party does not get enough credit for taking action and ensuring the big fat cats are dealt with. They can telephone me at any time because I never got any votes or contributions from fat cats. I am not appearing before any tribunal after my years as a Minister of State with responsibility for trade.

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