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Committee on Drugs Use: Family Supports: Discussion (25 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: I thank the Deputy. I see everyone nodding.

Committee on Drugs Use: Family Supports: Discussion (25 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Yes.

Committee on Drugs Use: Family Supports: Discussion (25 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Yes.

Committee on Drugs Use: Family Supports: Discussion (25 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: We have gone full circle and I have not asked any questions. The witnesses have all given up their time and expertise, taken out of what are clearly busy days. Is there any question that has not been asked of them? Is there any point they were making that was interrupted? Is there anything of which they would like to make this committee aware before they leave?

Committee on Drugs Use: Family Supports: Discussion (25 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Thank you, Ms Lyones, for sharing that experience.

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Prison Service (24 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: 122. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the status of the independent external review of the chaplaincy service within the Irish Prison Service; the timeframe for the implementation of the review's recommendations; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [50720/25]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: I thank the Minister for his presentation . I assume I am one of the people he referenced as accusing him of lacking compassion when it comes to deportation flights. I do not think I personalised the matter. The decision that was made lacked compassion. I might just go into it, since the Minister referenced it. The decision was in relation to the deportation of children. The Minister...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Yes, both of us would like to see a speeding-up of the process, but probably with different safeguards implemented beforehand. However, those children had been here for many years of their young lives. That is the difference. They were failed by the same systems the Minister is trying to rectify, so within that there possibly is space for an amnesty in light of the length of time a child...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: As I said, 17% of the centres did not meet the standards. Earlier this year the whistleblower's ombudsman described as unacceptable the current regime for investigating wrongdoing in IPA centres. What reforms have been introduced since then to ensure that residents can safely and effectively report mistreatment or mismanagement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Which specific recommendations are in place for the residents? If residents have a problem with food or their treatment, do they go to the management of the IPAS centres themselves?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: The question is about how the Minister is ensuring value for money from the IPAS operators. People are entitled to seek asylum, whether they are successful or not. While they are in the care of the State, how the State is spending the money is actually how the Department responds back to us. How is the Minister ensuring that the money is being spent in an effective way?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: It does not operate effectively. A total of €1.2 billion is allocated for IPAS accommodation this year. What oversight exists to ensure the money is spent on services for residents, rather than expanding the profit margins for operators, and to ensure taxpayers are receiving value for money?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: We will go for a lightning round. How many people are currently in prisons awaiting deportation? How many people have spent time in prisons this year awaiting deportation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: They are going to prisons that are overcrowded. Dóchas, for example, is operating at 141% and yet it has had more than a few people sent there awaiting deportation. What is the impact of that on the prison population and how many people have been released who have committed crimes to make space for those coming in awaiting deportation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: How many violent offenders have been allowed out of prison?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: How many people who have committed violent crimes-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: When we have overcrowded prisons, there have been scenarios where people who have committed crimes, sometimes violent, have been allowed out of prisons.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: Okay. That is not done. I will move on. The Minister mentioned to Deputy Kelly earlier that there were 9,494 children in IPAS accommodation and he talked about an amnesty. How many of those children are awaiting deportations? I will be quick on this but I know there were 197 as of May of this year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: There were 197 children, I believe, as of May this year who were awaiting deportation. What is the average length of time they have spent in the country?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: International Protection Accommodation Service: Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration (23 Sep 2025)

Gary Gannon: It would be great if we could get the average length of time.

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