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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Dr. Doyle. We have a second session starting shortly. On behalf of the committee, I thank our guests from the Medical Council of Ireland Mr. Bill Prasifka, Dr. Rita Doyle and Ms Janet O'Farrell for coming before us this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: In our second session on Irish health sector workforce planning, we are meeting representatives from the Irish Hospital Consultants Association, IHCA. I welcome Dr. Aine Burke, Dr. Laura Durcan, vice president, Dr. Donal O’Hanlon, president, Mr. Martin Varley, secretary general, Dr. Gabrielle Colleran, vice president, and Dr. Conall Kennedy, council member. I wish to draw the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I will call on Dr. Colleran and then Mr. Varley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: Mr. Varley wished to comment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I will ask Deputy Kelly for his comments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: Can we bring in Dr. Durcan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I will put Deputy Kelly's question in a different way. Does Dr. Durcan believe that people with private health insurance should get preferential treatment in our public system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: A few minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I am afraid that the Deputy has run out of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: Mr. Paul Reid, director general of the HSE, has committed to balancing the books. The overrun in the health service this year will be €310 million lower than last year, if one is to believe the figures included in the Budget Statement yesterday. Something must have happened to reduce spending to that extent and I would like to know what it was, although I am not asking the question...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: On the employment of a locum or a temporary consultant compared to the employment of a permanent consultant, will the witnesses quantify the quality of care provided between those two different employments? Surely the continuity of care with a permanent consultant delivers much more coherent and long-term quality of care than even the best-intentioned agency consultant or locum. That must...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: In general terms, is it the case that a locum or an agency doctor brings no added value to the system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: Our members have remained a long time here this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: Yes. I should have offered them an opportunity to take a break.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I suggest a quick round of one question each as we have to vacate the room in ten minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Deputy O'Reilly and Dr. Colleran.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank the Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: We will get an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Mr. Varley. I invite Deputy Durkan to make a final comment before we wind up proceedings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Workforce Planning in the Health Sector: Discussion (9 Oct 2019)

Michael Harty: We are over time and must conclude. I thank our guests for attending. We will be discussing this issue with representatives of other organisations in the coming weeks, after which we hope to produce a report on our deliberations.

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