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Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: The basic pragmatic response to any short-term problems that arise will be demand management. We will work with large energy users that have their own back-up power supply. That is how that issue will be dealt with. Secondly, there is a generation gap between 2022 and 2025 because planned capacity increases will not come on stream, while demand has increased more than expected. We have...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: I gave the answer.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: As Taoiseach, I am saying to the Deputy that the Government will ensure every effort will be made and that everything that needs to be done will be done. In respect of any short-term problems between now and when the two plants are back in operation in October, any issues that arise will be dealt with through demand management. That means working with large energy users that have back-up...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: However, there has to be the long-term approach that the Deputy has identified, which we are committed to taking.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: It is not that crude a juxtaposition.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: It is not that simple. That is an overly simplistic presentation. The CRU and EirGrid have statutory responsibility to ensure a balance between demand and supply. That is what this Oireachtas established. It provided the infrastructure. That said, the Government has met representatives of both organisations and it will be taking decisions in respect of immediate issues. Again, both...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: First, we are intent and determined to meet our climate change targets by 2030. I brought in legislation which has been groundbreaking in that respect.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: This Government has done that, has passed its Climate Action and Low Carbon Development (Amendment) Bill and will be developing a climate action plan. We are very determined to meet those particular targets. We do not believe in cutting anyone’s heat off. The Deputy is deliberately creating this sort of divide and divisive approach to these issues.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: I have not met Cloud Infrastructure Ireland, or whatever it is called-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: -----or Michael McCarthy in respect of this. I have not met him at all in respect of this.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: The Deputy asked a specific question.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: I want to make another point. The Deputy spoke about foreign direct investment and how we have a great record with it. She made a sort of throwaway remark as if it does not matter. I am not interested in any multinational company for the sake of the company itself but I am interested in the thousands of people that such companies employ in this country.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: Those are the people I am interested in. The problem with Deputy Smith at times is that she just dismisses that as if it is something that should never have happened in this country.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: I know that you have an ideological view as to how economies and societies should be modelled.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: I do not accord with that or agree with you.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: The fact that there are thousands of people working in factories all over this country matters. There is an issue as to the growth of data itself and the power demands that arise from that-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: -----but we are not going to change that by simply banning data centres forever. If every country adopted that approach we would not have the digital transformation that is happening------

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: -----whether the Deputy likes it or not.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: There are two fundamental drivers at the moment. We need to move to a green-based economy and there will be digital transformation with increased demands for the production and utilisation of data. That is a reality of the modern world. The challenge is to grow and develop an energy infrastructure that can deal with and meet that.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (29 Sep 2021)

Micheál Martin: First of all, the performance of the health service in the last year has been exceptional-----

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