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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Mr. Collins's explanation, such as it is, for the €120,000 extra for Ryan Tubridy is that it was a "loyalty bonus". That was the phrase that was used. Was Mr. Collins involved in devising this bonus? Does he know, during the process of putting it in place, if Ryan Tubridy was actually aware that this was ongoing?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Mr. Lynch mentioned earlier in response to Senator Cassells that he was not aware of how the Tubridy pay deal was operationalised. What does Mr. Lynch mean by that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Why did Ms Ní Raghallaigh not think it appropriate to inform the public, when she had an opportunity on television last week, that she had sought the resignation of Dee Forbes?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: What are those concerns?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Perhaps for Mr.Lynch, the tripartite agreement, as it is now being described, was not signed by anyone at all, as far as I can gather from looking at the Grant Thornton audit report, until after the first payment was made. It was only signed by NKM in April 2023 after Grant Thornton was called in and as far as I can determine it was never signed by anyone at all in RTÉ. Is that the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: I have two final questions and then I will finish. To be clear, I spoke earlier about Deloitte's initial concerns about the arrangement. When did Deloitte come to Mr. Collins to express its concerns? Does he recall the approximate date?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Will Ms Anne O'Leary expand a little on her ongoing concerns about the NKM arrangements and the contracts negotiated. What are the concerns and how does she intend to-----?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: She has no concerns about or I suppose she does not have sufficient knowledge of them yet to be able to determine-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: I have asked this next question of all of the people appearing before us today. Does Mr. Lynch think that the public find it exceptionally difficult, if not impossible to believe, that an arrangement could be put in place with Ryan Tubridy, which was a highly unusual arrangement and one that went above and beyond normal corporate practices within RTÉ, and that only one person in the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Nobody is questioning that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Thank you. If I recall correctly, in one of Ms Anne O'Leary's responses to Senator Warfield, she stated - correct me if I am wrong - that she had concerns about the contracts that had been undertaken with Noel Kelly's clients and that RTÉ is looking to do a further investigation. Did I mishear her?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: I thank everyone for joining us again this week. I know how difficult this has been for everyone on a personal level. RTÉ's mission statement describes an ambition to achieve what is described as "one RTÉ", one collaborative team working in the same direction to serve the needs of the public in regard to public service broadcasting. There is not one RTÉ. There are two...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: I thank Ms Ní Raghallaigh.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Earlier on a question was asked of Mr. Lynch whether he intended to establish a register of external interests for employees and contractors within RTÉ. Looking at Tim Davie, when he was first appointed in his role as director general of the BBC in September 2020, within a couple of months such a register was established for the very same reasons I believe RTÉ should establish one....

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: If you have someone who is a senior, significant journalist broadcaster within RTÉ, and on a Saturday night he is doing a gig for a bank and on Monday morning he is chairing a conversation about banking policy, it is absolutely crucial that the members of the public know that that individual has a commercial relationship with a bank external to RTÉ and his judgment on these matters...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: But right now the public is not aware of those declarations.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Perhaps I am mistaken in my recollection but I thought I heard Mr. Collins say last week that the barter account or accounts were not under the control of the CFO. That was his understanding.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Ciarán Cannon: Yet, Ms O'Keeffe seemed to indicate that in her time, before the arrival of Mr. Collins, she was very much aware of the barter accounts and they were very much accounted for within her financial scrutiny of the organisation on a yearly basis.

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