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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (10 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I am entitled to my opinion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (10 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: Then why is it taking so long?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (10 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: The view the Commissioner expressed to SIPTU three weeks ago is that it is particularly unusual that no progress has been made on this matter. I understand he intends to follow up on it directly. In the short time I have left, I wish to raise another issue. I hope the Minister has seen the excellent report produced by the committee on co-operatives and the potential thereof. It speaks...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (10 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: My point is that 12 months have elapsed since the proceedings were initiated but the Department still appears to have absolutely nothing to say.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: The Minister is very welcome. If I am mistaken on this, I stand to be corrected. As I came into the Chamber, my party had received no email outlining which of our amendments, if any, have been ruled out of order, which is not satisfactory or fair. For those watching at home as well as our guests in the Chamber, it is important for the public to understand that very many substantive...

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: That is an important point. I appreciate the Leas-Chathaoirleach making it.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: If I am in the wrong, I will hold my hands up. It does not normally happen. I acknowledge it is quite unlike the Seanad.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I thank the Leas-Chathaoirleach. We are in the challenging situation of there being very few amendments we can specifically speak to. The amendments tabled by Senators Boyhan and Higgins pull together a number of our key concerns, albeit in asking for a report on them because that is what we are apparently restricted to, for the most part, today. I will cut to the chase. I hope the...

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: We did not get the decisions at the same time as the Minister. Sinn Féin received no notice of amendments being ruled out of order.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I am just correcting a statement.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: When was it sent?

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: Okay.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I have two points. My first relates to notification of amendments being ruled out of order. I am awaiting confirmation, but I am happy to accept our colleague's word that we must have received an email at 2.10 p.m. today.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I apologise. My colleague from the Labour Party mentioned that it came at 2.10 p.m. today. That leaves me puzzled in terms of the Minister stating he received that information yesterday evening. If that is the case I am again genuinely perplexed. I do not think it is acceptable to receive a list of our amendments ruled out of order one hour before the debate is due to begin.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: That is true.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I am just quoting what the Minister said. That is fine.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I appreciate that clarity. I will move on to the key thing I want to say. This is important because I put a set of questions to the Minister in my previous contribution. With the greatest respect, he ignored them. I do not mind him ignoring me, but I suspect there are quite a number of people watching in this afternoon. They still have key questions which to date have not been answered....

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: I thank the Minister for the explanation but it is not an explanation. He has set out when a series of decisions were made. I am asking him to justify them. What is the rationale for excluding the 24,000 people who spent less than six months in an institution? It is a simple question. The people watching proceedings today want to hear an answer. I ask him to please give me that answer.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: Well said.

Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (16 May 2023)

Paul Gavan: The Minister has not answered.

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