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Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: It is not better-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: -----because it is squeezing first-time buyers out of the market. The real issue is that we are in transition here. We are a year in government. The housing for all strategy will make this transition from the current leasing arrangements. Some of this is in the pipeline but there is an immediate issue of 2,400 social houses that can be provided through this leasing model.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: Allow me to make the point, please. We want those 2,400 families housed. Local authorities in some instances need to develop capacity and land to get into direct building. The leasing we are talking about here is not the dominant form or model for the provision of social housing at all. That gets lost in the debate because one would imagine that every social house is going to be leased...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: All I see, however, is sloganeering, having a cut and objecting to this, that and the other in the midst of a housing crisis.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: Take Shanganagh. Does Deputy Boyd Barrett not accept any bona fides? The Government has just approved the Shanganagh proposal, which involved social, affordable and cost rental housing. This year we will have the first major cost rental initiatives and scheme. I want to expand that so people can rent quite significantly below the market rate, enhancing affordability in the rental market...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: There were a lot of questions, though. I want to try to do justice to-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: May we have an extra five minutes?

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: When I spoke in the Dáil I said - I still hold to this view - that a limited degree of leasing has some importance. That was the exact statement I made, which no one has quoted, for obvious reasons. In the long term it is not great value for money for us not to own the property at the end. That is my view. I have said that to the Minister. The Housing for All strategy will deal...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: Generally speaking, lots of projects have not been developed at all and at the moment show no signs of development.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: As for the entire environmental approach in respect of compact cities, for example, the agenda there would be to activate brownfield sites to create housing opportunities within cities. However, the costs are proving particularly difficult, and the constant refrain from the sector is that they are not viable from a cost perspective, yet from a public transport perspective and a services...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: I am just saying what people who are in the field building are saying. They say they cannot do it. I do not know whether they are right or wrong. They say they cannot and those sites have not been built on. That is the reality of brownfield sites. We have not had the development recently that we would have wanted. We will look at how we can get a town centre first approach in towns, but...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: The Deputies have to listen too to people who are out there in the field trying to get projects off the ground because all I hear is-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: Yes, people will build to make profit. We need a private sector as well.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: We will not get to 30,000 or 40,000 houses a year if we do not have a balance between State-driven social housing, State-supported affordable housing and private sector development.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: We are not going to get there.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: It simply will not happen.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: I think Deputy McAuliffe-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: My apologies.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: May I respectfully say just one thing? Deputy McAuliffe summed up eloquently, with precision and factually a lot of the progress that has been made over the past year, and that will stand on the record of the House.

Ceisteanna - Questions: European Council (7 Jul 2021)

Micheál Martin: I propose to take Questions Nos. 11 to 16, inclusive, together. I attended a meeting of the European Council on 24 and 25 June in Brussels. The agenda covered Covid-19, economic recovery, migration, Turkey and the situation in the eastern Mediterranean, relations with Russia, Ethiopia and a number of other external relations issues. We also discussed the fundamental values of the...

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