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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The Deputy mentioned a number of issues, including housing and the concrete block levy.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I apologise if I am cutting across Deputy Michael Healy-Rae's time; I do not mean to. However, as this is a review almost of the budget, there did seem to be some surprise that there was no particular provision for landlords. There is a concern that there would be a landlord exodus. I know that in no way does Deputy Michael Healy-Rae expect me to be sticking up for landlords. However,...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I apologise. I feel as though I cut across Ms Bennett as she was in full flow. I might put that point to the witnesses from the ESRI and Professor Kinsella. Did they expect to see something for landlords in the budget? I am not asking if they would like to see it but if they expected to see it.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: It also would not be logical to lose a load of landlords from the sector.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: If Members wish to ask a second round of questions then please indicate while I ask my own questions. I completely agree with Social Justice Ireland. All of the witnesses have raised issues around the nature of one-off payments for some groups versus permanent changes for other cohorts. I also agree with the call for an increase of €8. An issue exists within this prism whereby...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: People need security.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: People already rely on it. In Cabra, mothers are relying on the double Christmas payment.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I have some follow-up questions. Although I support indexation, it is not me personally who is supportive; it is the committee that recommends the Government engage with indexation. That is a meaningful recommendation.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I agree.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Yes, that is what all the research tells us. To be clear, I am not saying this will add to inflation. That is the answer we are being provided with. Does Social Justice Ireland have any truck with the argument that making payments universal speeds up the time it takes to get the money to people? I am not talking about the administrative costs of means-testing but the ability of the State...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Expanding the working family credit was one. With regard to the SWITCH model, which decile or point would Social Justice Ireland target? I am sorry if that is a bit of a loaded question.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Given what they are expected to do.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Ms Bennett wishes to come in, and then I will turn to the ESRI.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I turn to the ESRI. It strikes me that a lot of the discussions we have been having about the overall effects of the budget have looked at quite marginal levels of change. I am returning to inflation. It is such a volatile situation. Obviously, in all the modelling the various groups have done and the Government itself has probably done, that inflation has been forecast. How confident is...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Would it be accurate to say that by relying on one-off measures this year, we may have created a larger gap for ourselves to jump next year, when we will possibly have to address indexation or a more permanent solution?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: From a purely economic perspective, is it bad practice to rely on one-off measures year on year? I do not mean that from a moral point of view; I mean that we are trying to build an economic system that is sustainable. I presume that is what we are all working for. Is it simply not great practice to rely constantly on one-offs?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We have talked a lot about multi-annual budgeting and giving people security in respect of social programmes. Now we seem to be getting to the very meat of living life and putting that on a very unsure footing.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We would see a massive Dáil clear-out if that were to happen.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The committee will do a series of sessions on the Commission on Taxation and Welfare report and, we hope, go through it all with a fine-tooth comb.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Post-budget 2023 Examination: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We will hit Social Justice Ireland up for that. Dr. Healy need not worry.

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