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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Where are we in all that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: We are really at the beginning of that discussion rather than anywhere close to delivery.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Right, but we could have this same discussion in four years unless we get to a better place fairly fast.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Will Mr. O'Regan indicate again what the figures are for what we do not have and what we need?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I would appreciate that. Mr. O'Regan has put this in front of everyone it needs to go in front of. It is up to them to do the work. As regards international recruitment, what is the current position in respect of the difficulties with CORU?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: We put ourselves under pressure in order to relieve future pressure. That is just the way it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Regarding the international piece, can anything else be done from the point of view of us being able to get more people with qualifications into the system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: 100%. We needed to do all of that yesterday, to a degree. We have to be imaginative around getting results. Otherwise, I imagine I will hear next year that we cannot deliver the service we need on the basis that we do not have the capacity to do so. That is not much addition to the people in that situation or the families coming to us who are under severe pressure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I get that. That is where I was going next. In fairness, they stated that the assessment of need, as Mr. O'Regan said, is sometimes seen as a panacea whereas it is the same people who provide therapies. They cannot provide therapies when they are doing other work. The option of getting private diagnoses and whatever else was open for parents who could afford it, or were facilitated to do...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: We were meant to be child based and not diagnosis based, but we are all being forced-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: A lot of those assessments will have to be revisited, if that is requested.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That applies if the person does not require the full 37 hours of an assessment of need.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Within the current setup, if a person knows for definite there is a speech and language issue, the assessment process stops there and then. There is a logic to that. Once the person could access services, I do not think we would hear from him or her again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: This is about a bespoke solution based on a child's needs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I am well over time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I agree. On some level we need something universal across all Departments so we can facilitate children and citizens as they operate in society like the rest of us and not as a failing. Some of the difficulties with the school inclusion model have been thrown up by everybody. Training for teachers is absolutely necessary but there needs to a particular emphasis on resource teachers and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Certain families are missing out on that framework that would provide them with that little bit that can get their loved one through third level education or whatever else that puts them in a different place. I am dealing with a case of a family where the father and mother are under pressure. The fellow was on a social welfare payment, but had let it lapse. We got that sorted. He also...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: One of my questions was not answered.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy and Health: Health Service Executive (18 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It was about CAMHS versus adult services. I do not think anyone is going to have an issue with what I said about teachers and resourced teachers.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Departmental Offices (25 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: 17. To ask the Taoiseach if he will report on the international unit of his Department. [51678/22]

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