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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that. I thank the Chair for indulging me somewhat. It is not really legitimate to say that just because it could happen in a non-PPP scenario, it is all right for it to happen in a PPP scenario. The witnesses represent the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. When State money is paid out, the Department should ensure that the people who did the work get paid for it. That...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Our guests are to supply us with a list of people in respect of whom moneys are outstanding.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Leader for outlining the business of the day. I ask him for an urgent debate on the Scally report and to bring it forward as soon as possible, hopefully next week. While I could propose an amendment to the Order of Business, I am unsure whether that is relevant to next week, as we are talking about the Order of Business today. I wish to propose that Members debate the report...

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I can propose an amendment to the Order of Business if that brings about a review more quickly. It may not be possible today. Ideally, I would propose an amendment to the Order of Business today, but if it was not possible to do so, that it be done as soon as possible.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I am trying to indicate to the Leader that I am always flexible and willing to help in delivery but I seek a debate on the matter as soon as possible. If the Leader is not forthcoming, I expect he probably will be, we may have to propose an amendment to the Order of Business. It is proposed for now and I will await the Leader's response. Brexit is getting closer and closer. It is now two...

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: That is agreed.

Seanad: Order of Business (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: And the National Transport Authority, NTA.

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I indulged the Senator somewhat because this debate is supposed to be on transport and not on tourism. I am sure the Minister would be delighted to come back to the House to discuss tourism, sport and various other aspects of his brief but today we are discussing transport. I remind Members that we are discussing Project Ireland 2040 - Linking People and Places and transport matters. The...

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I welcome the Minister to the House, with which he is very familiar, having spent a long time in the Seanad before he was elected to the Dáil. I welcome him back. I will make a number of points particularly on the transport matter. I came in this morning by bicycle. I was very glad I was cycling because there was a tailback through the heart of the Minister's constituency where I...

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I do not want to interrupt the Minister, but he has responded to almost six Senators. There are another five left to respond to and we have only five minutes left, so I am-----

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I should declare that I was the last speaker so I would not mind a response before someone else says it. We have spent half an hour on the first six, so I ask that we deal with the other five in five minutes.

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister.

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: We must finish at 3 o'clock.

Seanad: Project 2040 and Transport Matters: Statements (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister for his comprehensive response to the issues raised. I have no doubt he will be in the House again soon on other transport, tourism and sport issues.

Seanad: Thirty-seventh Amendment of the Constitution (Repeal of offence of publication or utterance of blasphemous matter) Bill 2018: Second Stage - An Bille um an Seachtú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cion a aisghairm arb éard é ní diamhaslach a fhoilsiú nó a aithris) 2018: An Dara Céim (20 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister of State, not just for his very comprehensive outline of what is being proposed but for the brevity with which he delivered it. Fianna Fáil believes the current provisions on blasphemy in the Constitution are outdated and should be removed. Ireland is one of only seven countries in Europe where blasphemy is still an offence. The Bill proposes the removal of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: World Development Report 2019: Discussion (25 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Dr. Djankov for attending. The report is vast and covers the future of work in the World Bank's 190 client countries. Everywhere is different. We have a limited amount of time at this meeting. Dr. Djankov is somewhat familiar with Ireland and our circumstances, having been a member of ECOFIN. I presume he met former Deputy Brian Lenihan and other Ministers while he himself was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: World Development Report 2019: Discussion (25 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: We are all in trouble, so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: World Development Report 2019: Discussion (25 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Dr. Djankov. He stated that education in technology for three to six year olds in particular was essential. In respect of planning for increased levels of automation, while my background is as an accountant, I am not sure that we could automate politicians yet. It is to be hoped it will not happen for a while. What about driverless trucks, cars, buses, trains and so on? A year or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: World Development Report 2019: Discussion (25 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: It sounds quite depressing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: World Development Report 2019: Discussion (25 Sep 2018)

Gerry Horkan: Many jobs and companies that exist now such as Google, Facebook and PayPal did not exist 20 years ago. There are two elements to this point. Forty per cent or thereabouts of our corporation tax comes from ten companies. All of them are US based, or that is the impression we get, and they are nearly all in the technology sector with possibly a few in the pharmaceutical sector. It is...

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