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Topical Issue Debate: Water Fluoridation (27 Feb 2013)

Shane Ross: I am concluding. There is one Irish example which emphasises and illustrates the point. West Cork has the highest rate of cardiovascular disease in Ireland and Ireland has the highest rate in Europe. In west Cork there is very little calcium in the water. It has the lowest levels of calcium in Ireland, which means the water is soft, with the result that there is three times more fluoride...

Topical Issue Debate: Water Fluoridation (27 Feb 2013)

Shane Ross: The Minister of State is correct that I am not a scientist and I had as much difficulty with some of the technical phrases as he did. I accept fully that there are differing scientific views. What I am impressed with is the fact that this is the only country in Europe that considers it is necessary to do this to our water supply. Other countries in Europe, including Finland, have decided...

Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Second Stage (1 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: It was the longest in mine.

Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Second Stage (1 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I rise to speak on this Bill almost I feel for the second time. I am aware of the need for, and the reasons why, the Minister has introduced this Bill, in order to relieve worthy causes of the property tax. While everybody in the House supports what he is doing for the disabled, for charities and others, and for homes damaged by pyrite, the main clauses of the Bill still stand indicted by...

Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Second Stage (1 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: It is one which the tax has provoked. The problem is that many Members on the Minister's side recognise that this is a fundamentally flawed tax in itself but it is utterly wrong at this time, as Deputy Olivia Mitchell said today, and I hate to use her as a thorn in the Minister's side, although she is fundamentally in favour of the tax. It is very difficult to get money out of an asset...

Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Second Stage (1 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: The people of south-east Dublin and other parts of Dublin deeply resent this tax. Apart from negative equity and other factors, the main reason for their resentment is that they will have to pay more than what will be paid for similar types of house outside Dublin. That is not fair. The Minister's refusal to make concessions on that, which has been well represented by the Members behind...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I read Mr. Moran's opening statement with interest. It was so up-beat and optimistic, it would make the Taoiseach blush. In regard to the recruitment policy, when the banking division was being established is it correct that it employed a large number of people from the NTMA?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: Did they have a different pay structure when they came into the Department or did they retain the NTMA pay structure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: They are working under a completely different remuneration regime.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: Are they paid more?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: Are some of them paid more?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: They are paid NTMA rates rather than Department of Finance rates.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: How did the Department recruit the other banking division staff?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: They should be redundant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: Did the Department advertise for these positions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: None of the banking positions was advertised.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I am not asking about Mr. Torpey.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I contacted the Department yesterday to ask for a chart. As Mr. Moran probably understands, the Department is a mystery to the outside world. We do not know how it operates. I asked for a chart of who does what in the Department and was told "No". Is there any reason for that refusal?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I was told I could find out the identity of the top guys on the website but beyond that I was not going to get any more information. When I asked the reason for the refusal, I was told that the public might contact the Department to ask questions. Is it not possible to get a breakdown of who does what in the Department of Finance? If Mr. Moran wants to retain officials' anonymity - I am...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts and Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 6 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Financial Outturn for 2011
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Banking and Insurance Measures
Chapter 5 - EU Financial Transactions
(7 Mar 2013)

Shane Ross: I would like to see everybody's function.

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