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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I think it made €10 million. It is being managed very well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. Cody gets where I am coming from.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: There is money but an entity no longer has charitable status. If dividends are being paid, is tax being paid on them and what is Revenue's role in gathering that tax?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: That is possible, but it is also possible that a body is claiming the credit.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: That is my argument.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. Cody might supply a detailed note on that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I raised a different issue last week. If a charity's turnover is over €100,000, Revenue requires it to undergo an audit. Am I correct in saying that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Is there any evidence of deliberate attempts being made to keep turnovers under €100,000 in order to avoid audits?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: In terms of the former, are there many with turnovers of €97,000, €98,000 or €99,000?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I referenced a particular charity last week, that of Gianna Care. It is not actually registered as a charity. A formal complaint has been made to the Charities Regulator. I was caught by something last week. If an organisation is purporting to be a charity and collecting money under that heading but it is not a registered charity, the Charities Regulator does not seem to be able to do...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: And who is profiting from it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If there is a rogue agency and it is not registered with the Charities Regulator, is Revenue's role just to ensure that it gathers the appropriate taxes from it, to put it in the nicest way possible? Has Revenue any role in tackling fraud, given that the agency would be purporting to be something that it was not, or would that be someone else's job?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I am paraphrasing, but the Charities Regulator told me that it was not its job because the agency was not registered.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If it is purporting to be something it is not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Perhaps my next point does not fall in Revenue's area, but I was concerned last week by some of the reasons for which someone could get charitable status, including the advancement of religion and the advancement of education. Deputy Burke spoke about historical allowances and tax credits. With a view to tidying up the system, has Revenue considered moving the goalposts in terms of what is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Did it for Revenue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. Cody is saying it is the Charities Regulator's job to decide the parameters under which an organisation gets status.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Am I correct that some childcare facilities have charitable status?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It applies to community crèches. I suppose it depends on the area of the country. Must all of the income stream of a community crèche come from the early childhood scheme? Is it all State money that is paid? A child aged between three and five may be on the early childhood care and education, ECCE, scheme for three hours in the morning. If the parents or guardians decide to pay...

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