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Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: I thank Deputy Crowe and thank all Deputies for keeping their comments to within three minutes. I invite the Minister of State to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Yes. The Minister of State should work his way through as much as possible and thereafter he-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: ----- can provide members with responses in written form.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: The only other issue which arises relates to whether the COSAC contribution will be reflected in the updated 2020 strategy. Is the Minister of State in a position to provide an update on that matter?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: We look forward to those discussions taking place. I thank the Minister of State for coming before us and for answering the comprehensive list of questions put to him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at Department of the Taoiseach (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: That brings to an end the first session of this meeting. We will suspend proceedings for a couple of minutes in order to allow the Minister of State and his officials to leave and our next guest, Sir Bill Cash, to come before us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Can everyone please check their mobile telephones to ensure they are switched off? That includes Deputies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Thank you, Deputy. For the second session today we are joined by Sir Bill Cash, MP, who is Chair of the House of Commons EU Scrutiny Committee. As members know, this committee is holding a series of meetings to examine the impact on Ireland should the UK decide to withdraw from the EU. A referendum on this question has been promised by the British Prime Minister, David Cameron, MP, if he is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: I remind members that the committee is considering the implications for Ireland of a UK exit from the EU. Members are asked not to comment on the merit of a referendum taking place in another sovereign nation, but just to focus on the issue of the impact on Ireland. On behalf of the committee, I would like to welcome Sir Bill Cash to the proceedings today. We look forward to hearing his...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: I thank Sir Bill Cash. I have two questions for him. His script states, "In any event it would continue to be in the mutual interests of the member states of the EU and the UK to continue to trade and to achieve political co-operation, even if we were outside the EU". In the event of an exit, some would say the quid pro quorelationship would not be possible. The model would be more akin...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: I think we would all agree on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Let us be robust, but let us do it through the Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Deputy Eric Byrne and then Deputy Seán Kyne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Before I call Deputy Kyne, we have only had two political guests so far, those being, Sir William and Baroness Quin. It has been one from each side of the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: We invited Mr. Nigel Farage or a representative of UKIP, but our invitation has not been accepted. The other guests were academics and such like who had expressed strong views.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Excellent. I call Deputy Kyne to ask a final question, after which we will revert to our guest.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Excellent. On behalf of the committee, I thank Sir William for giving up his time and travelling here today. I know he is flying back tonight.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: We have had a very useful discussion. As Deputy Eric Byrne said, it is the first time a coherent argument in favour of a UK exit has been put before the committee. We appreciate that. We will have a number of additional meetings on this subject, including one this Thursday. We will make sure Sir William gets a copy of our report, which we intend to produce before the summer recess.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: Absolutely, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: Possible Exit of UK from European Union: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Mar 2015)

Dominic Hannigan: We are not going to have a Burke-Paine argument here today.

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