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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: They are, and if there is any group of current or retired civil servants I am particularly sensitive to, it is the ones who will be counting votes in a few weeks' time, which is all the more reason to come back with an accurate answer on it. I will do that.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: No, the coroner's office is the Minister for Justice and the probate office is the same.

Houses of the Oireachtas Commission (Amendment) Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Deputies who have contributed to the debate, namely, Deputies Conway-Walsh, Sherlock, Phelan, Shortall, Ó Cuív, Collins, McGrath, O'Donoghue, Ó Snodaigh and Violet-Anne Wynne, who made some concluding comments. I will pick up on a couple of points made. Every speaker who contributed to the debate offered support for the Bill and I thank them very much for doing...

Estimates for Public Services 2024 (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I move the following Supplementary Estimates: Vote 4 — Central Statistics Office (Supplementary Estimate)That a supplementary sum not exceeding €400,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of December, 2024, for the salaries and expenses of the Central Statistics Office. Vote 5 — Office of the...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time." I am pleased to introduce the Appropriation Bill 2024 to the House. It is critical annual financial legislation. It has to be enacted before the end of the year to give effect to the authorisation of voted expenditure throughout 2024 and to allow for the continuation of expenditure into 2025. It has two main functions. The first is to...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: If I were to highlight two reforms I believe are making a difference, the first is the way in which we have changed the process with regard to the public spending code. We have increased the threshold above which a further level of work needs to be done in evaluating the business case and where additional processes need to be triggered because the cost of the project is high. We have...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: It falls under the justice Vote.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I am sorry; I have just been corrected. It falls under the Vote for the Chief State Solicitor, which is under the Department of the Taoiseach. It is under the office of the DPP.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I have just been informed it is under the Office of the Attorney General. In any event, it is not under our remit but that of the Taoiseach.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I wish the Cathaoirleach and all committee members the very best of luck.

Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank all Deputies for the contributions they have made. I will respond now to a number of the matters that were raised in this debate, including the issue of accountability in relation to the huge amounts of money that I am asking the Dáil to vote on this afternoon. I thank Deputies for recognising the importance of the passing of this legislation but I would emphasise that in order...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: But the money is not lost. The point that was being made or suggested was that because this is a carryover, the money is being handed back but that is wrong. In fact, because it is a carryover, it is being retained within the Department but spent in a different year. The absence of a carryover would mean the money is not being spent in the Department but the presence of a carryover means...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I am right.

Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I know I am right. I am wary of making points with absolute certainty but the point I am making to the Deputy is that the State is directly involved in building homes. It does so through local authorities. The majority of those 11,938 homes would have been built directly by local authorities, which is the State. That is the argument I am making to the Deputy. To suggest the State is not...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Committee and Remaining Stages (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Ceann Comhairle. I also thank all the Deputies who contributed to the debate and raised various issues. I will begin with Deputy Ó Snodaigh, who raised an issue I am very familiar with because he has raised it with me on a number of occasions. It is worth putting the issue in context. We are talking about €2 million out of the €104.3 billion being...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Committee and Remaining Stages (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I wish to say something on the Schedule. I should have said it earlier but given this also will be my final opportunity to speak in this Dáil - although like everybody on the Opposition benches, I hope to be in the next one, depending on the support of our electorate and our constituents - I thank all the Deputies over the Dáil term for their co-operation in how we have debated...

Appropriation Bill 2024: Committee and Remaining Stages (6 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: Hear hear.

Seanad: Houses of the Oireachtas Commission (Amendment) Bill 2024 [Certified Money Bill]: Second and Subsequent Stages (7 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I am pleased to present the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission (Amendment) Bill to the House, which has passed all Stages in the Dáil. The Houses of the Oireachtas Commission came into existence in January 2004 and the legislation that set it up allowed it to play two roles. First, it was the sanctioning authority for expenditure, for deciding on staff numbers up to the grade of...

Seanad: Houses of the Oireachtas Commission (Amendment) Bill 2024 [Certified Money Bill]: Second and Subsequent Stages (7 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank all the Senators for the issues they raised and for their co-operation in facilitating the passage of the Bill in the way we are progressing it this afternoon. I start by addressing the issues raised in common. Several Senators raised issues relating to the terms and conditions of cleaners within the complex. It is not a matter in which I am directly involved, but I will follow-up...

Seanad: Appropriation Bill 2024: Second Stage (7 Nov 2024)

Paschal Donohoe: This is the Appropriation Bill for 2024. It is very much a technical Bill. It is worth emphasising that before this legislation gets to the Oireachtas, all the different Estimates that constitute the very large amount of money provided for in this Bill have been debated by the relevant Oireachtas committees. All of the different provisions in relation to the availability of money have...

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