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Seanad: Business of Seanad (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: The Leader has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That Committee Stage of the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013 be concluded at 10 p.m." Is the amendment agreed to?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: I have an interest in speaking on section 9 so will that be reached before the guillotine this evening at 10 p.m? It is the central plank of this Bill. We have spent almost seven hours debating two sections and I will be bitterly disappointed if I do not get to say a few brief words. At the rate we are going, it seems we will not get to section 9. Whatever side a Senator is on, section 9...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: I am expressing my concern.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: With all due respect, Senator van Turnhout is entitled to make a point, although perhaps we should move on.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Does Senator Mary Ann O'Brien wish to contribute? I apologise that I allowed the Minister in before her, I did not see her indicating on time.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: I call Senator Colm Burke.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator Mullen may not agree with the Minister, and I understand that. I ask Senator O'Donnell to allow the Senator continue. I have listened to and chaired much of this debate and there have been a lot of interventions, with one side having a go at the other and never the twain shall meet. Obviously there are opposing views. Though the Senator may differ in his view, it is inappropriate...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator O'Donnell's interventions sometimes only prolong the debate. She may mean well, but she should allow Senator Mullen continue before I ask the Minister to respond.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: With all due respect, I will decide when the vote is called. I am trying to be fair to everyone.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: I ask Senators not to interrupt because that only encourages further debate. There should be less goading, which is what is happening. Senator Mullen has a right to make his point and when he has concluded, I will ask the Minister to respond and then put the question.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: There has been substantial debate on amendment No. 13, but obviously we will not get agreement on it. Is the Senator pressing the amendment?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendment No. 14 cannot be moved.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: The Minister for Health has already said what he can say on this section, so we will move on to amendment No.15.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: It cannot be moved. That is the ruling. Amendments Nos. 15, 33 and 54 are related and may be discussed together.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: It cannot be moved because it has already been discussed with amendment No.13. That is the procedural agreement.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendment No.13 has been dealt with. Amendments Nos. 13 and 14 are related and so it cannot be moved as it has already been dealt with under amendment No.13. That is my ruling. I call on Senator Mullen.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator Gilroy, your interventions might be unhelpful to the debate.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: That is more appropriate to section 9.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: That is the critical section on the whole area of suicide, to avoid repetition.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Denis O'Donovan: I wish to remind Members that we are dealing with the risk of loss of life from physical illness and that the suicide issue is confined to section 9. I would like to remind Members who are maybe of an opposing view not to concentrate on that because it is ultra vires the issue before us now. I call Senator Mullen.

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