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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I can be very specific if Dr. Kelly so wishes but I understand that she cannot answer me in the specific.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: If An Bord Pleanála is faced with a situation where the local authority has voted once or twice with regard to material contravention and has protected the city development plan by not rezoning an area, the board's interpretation of that development is on the grounds that it "contravenes policies and objectives" and is not a material contravention. Is there a possibility that an error...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Let me be specific. Cork City Council voted unanimously on a number of occasions with regard to a development in Cork city. The application was refused by Cork City Council and the decision was appealed to An Bord Pleanála. An Bord Pleanála gave a ruling that the development could go ahead. I can see the reason that the development would go ahead because An Bord Pleanála...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I will not push Dr. Kelly on that case. A difficulty with that case is that the local authority would have to go for a judicial review, at a significant cost, to try to reverse the decision. Should we consider providing another mechanism to appeal a decision of An Bord Pleanála in place of a judicial review? What consideration has been given to a planning ombudsman? The term...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: There is a difference between appealing and reviewing. The Department of Social Protection has an appeals process and a review process, with a significant difference between the two. The appeals process is where one re-enters the entire process, like going from a local authority to An Bord Pleanála, and the review process is where one considers whether someone has taken cognisance of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Decision-Making Processes: Discussion with An Bord Pleanála (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Sometimes matters in the committee are more important than what takes place in the Chamber. I thank the witnesses from An Bord Pleanála for appearing before the committee and I wish Dr. Kelly well in her post. I hope Dr. Kelly and the board have a number of productive years. I welcome the presentation made to the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I welcome the delegates from the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association of the Canadian Parliament: Mr. David Tilson, Ms Annick Papillon and Ms Joyce Bateman, Members of the Canadian House of Commons; and Ms Joan Fraser and Mr. David Tkachuk of the Canadian Senate. Delegates are informed that by virtue of section 17(2)(l) of the Defamation Act 2009, they are protected by absolute privilege...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: We will begin by being fair and by going on Canadian time, which means it is early in the morning for meetings. We have plenty of time. I am not a geophysicist or a petrochemical expert either. Can the delegation explain in layman's language how Canada is being treated unfairly? Is this an issue of the type of oil and the extraction process used in acquiring it, or is it the substance or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is that like fracking?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I wish to clarify one point. The process of acquiring sand oil is not a fracking process. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I am still trying to get my head around this. The methods of extraction that we are familiar with in this part of the world, particularly in this part of the Atlantic, are offshore oil extraction by oil rigs and gas extraction by the same method. We are familiar with how oil processes in North Africa, the Middle East and Saudi Arabia have worked. What is different about sand oil? Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is Canada a world leader in sand oil?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Please, Senator. We need clarity here. Mr. Tilson raised this issue previously and received responses from other European member states. In summary, what are the responses that he is getting to those issues?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I will summarise Senator Landy's point. The delegation has come a long way. We would hope it has something to say rather than just asking us questions. I attended a number of EU Presidency meetings in Copenhagen earlier this year. One of the points the delegation made that interested me, of which I have taken note, is that Canada is taking the carbon footprint of the full production...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Mr. Tilson can make that accusation if he wishes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I have one last question concerning the process of extracting sand oil from the ground. Is it done by an oil rig or is it done by one of those pumps that we saw on "Dallas" that goes back and forth?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is it in a well structure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: That sounds like fracking.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The steam separates the oil from the sand, is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: EU Fuel Quality Directive: Discussion with Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association (9 Oct 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Henry Kissinger once said that when he picked up the phone to ring Europe, he did not know who to call. Who, in Canada, is phoning Europe on this? Is it just this delegation or are discussions taking place at a higher level on this issue?

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