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Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Lovely. Therefore, I will be told when it started, when it is to be completed and what it will cost.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good. That is great.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I will move specifically to the other question which relates to the three people identified by Mr. O'Brien who is here to clarify his evidence given to the Committee of Public Accounts in February 2016. He pointed out that there was "a three-person panel, for want of a better word." Although it is not in the evidence, it was in Mr. O'Brien's mind. Is it right that it was H6? Who were the...

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: They were the three people who were in Mr. O'Brien's mind. When he gave evidence that they had all left the public service, he inadvertently made a mistake with one of them. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. I will put my question in order that Mr. O'Brien can answer it. They were the three people who were in his mind. He told us that they were, but he did not say who the three people were. He confirmed they had all left the public service but one of them had not. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good. That person has been identified in letters as H12. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I thank Mr. O'Brien. He has clarified the position. He said there was "a three-person panel, for want of a better word" and referred to the Devine report. Let us look at that report. As Mr. O'Brien knows the paragraph by heart, he might guide me.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I think Mr. O'Brien does.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That is correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I will guide Mr. O'Brien and thank him for finding the page. H3 is identified in it, with H7 and H12. They are identified between points Nos. 1 and 8 in the middle of the page. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. O'Brien identified them as being part of a panel. That word is never used.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It is a word Mr. O'Brien used.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Very good. Who else was there on the day? Mr. O'Brien spoke about five people.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, I can read that, but I asked who else was there.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The Chairman might bear with me for an extra minute or two as we go through the report.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is Mr. O'Brien telling me that they were there and make up the five?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. O'Brien identified H7, H3 and H12 as the three who had a dual role. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: If Mr. O'Brien keeps saying the words "as per the report," I will open it up and refer to a lot of other stuff. Things can be taken out of a report. I will put the matter in context. Mr. O'Brien referred to the three as having a dual role.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I thank Mr. O'Brien. Why is he identifying three people as having a dual role as opposed to the five who possibly made the decision?

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