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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: I am asking Mr. Tubridy directly and I am entitled to ask the man himself.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: With the height of respect, there has been much latitude, Chair. I ask Mr. Tubridy, respectfully. Was €440,000 not enough? Did he not say to Mr. Kelly, "I don't need the extra €75,000"? The licence fee is €160.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: That is 469 licences. That is three housing estates to be throwing it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: He struck Mr. Tubridy a good deal. What I am struggling with today-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Quite frankly, it is a narrative because it is putting forward one scenario. I am putting a contention to Mr. Tubridy that there was a stalling in the contract and this was the sweetener to make sure that the contract was signed, and it got it over the line. Mr. Tubridy, in his second statement, going back to 23 June, apologised and said he should have asked questions. If there is a...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Before the clock starts, we can see that we have a Dermot Gallagher in the chair. I do not have much chance with leverage and, therefore, I ask the witnesses for rapid responses to my questions. I would like a quick comment on the statement made today by the Irish Bookmakers Association, as we are discussing the future of sports broadcasting. It has said that the new gambling Bill in...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Have the implications not been discussed with UEFA? We have seen it in other things, particularly with the IRFU, where drinks bans have led to the Six Nations having to circumvent that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Mr. Hill's opening statement referred to the scenario of, in the first instance, working with the free-to-air games that the FAI has with RTÉ and Virgin Media, but then also exploring a second broadcast partner with the ability to show more live games. He said this would be a specialist, sports-focused broadcaster such as Sky Sports or Premier Sports. Has the FAI approached Sky with...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Would that be for exclusive rights to the League of Ireland, or just a selection? Obviously, the FAI is working with two broadcast partners at the moment.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: With regard to the GAAGO deal, I want to ask Mr. Ryan about the 22% income that the GAA derives from media partnerships. What percentage of that 22% does GAAGO comprise?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Is that 10% to 15% of the overall 22% that is coming from the GAAGO partnership? It is a very significant part of the income.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: How much income, roughly, is generated from the partnership with RTÉ in pounds, shillings and pence?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Okay. Mr. Ryan touched on the Sky Sports deal previously. The GAA is getting approximately €100,000. What was the difference between what the accounts would have shown for how much Sky brought in vis-à-viswhat GAAGO is now bringing in?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Is that 10% of the €4 million? Am I getting this right?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Finally, we have seen what the FAI is doing for its partnerships, including a deal with RTÉ and Virgin Media for its domestic league. We have seen the IRFU use RTÉ and Virgin Media for the Six Nations. Is there a scenario where the GAA would entertain doing a deal between RTÉ and Virgin Media simultaneously for GAA matches?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: I will start with Dr. Carpenter, who spoke about the need for action by the Government on privacy. One issue on which the Government is acting is gambling. I asked representatives from the sports organisations who were before the committee about the statement by the Irish Bookmakers Association that the gambling Bill will stop live Premier League games being shown by Sky in Ireland. Does...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: From Sky's reading of it, would the Bill prevent Premier League matches from being shown?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: Dr. Carpenter does not think that is the policy. That is interesting because Sky Sports is currently lobbying Deputies and Senators looking for the Bill to be watered down for Sky Sports Racing. The charge made by Sky is that it will hit the bookies' advertising revenue on that channel. It is asking for an exemption that would prevent the legislation being applied to Sky Sports Racing...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future of Sports Broadcasting: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jul 2023)

Shane Cassells: I have to move on, but I will definitely revisit this matter. On the issue relating to Virgin Media, Mr. Ryan had said that the issue production. Does Mr. Farrell accept that the key difference between that deal was that they were asking about the production aspect from Virgin Media?