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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: In terms of manners, it falls to you, Chairman, to consider whether you were mannerly in making that assertion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I was one of only two people in attendance yesterday. Deputy Mac Lochlainn was not there. I will make no comment about Senator Zappone because her work record is impeccable in the area, but I was one of only two Members who met Ms Myria Vassiliadou, the EU anti-trafficking co-ordinator, so please do not make any such references. I will be here when there is business on which I wish to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: Sorry, Chairman, I am responding to what you said, which was inappropriate, and you should acknowledge that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: Senator, you are here as a "Yes" man. I am here to stand up for the issues-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: You are a "Yes" man.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: You do not speak for yourself. Somebody else writes your speech.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I write my own.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: And when I come in to do the business of the committee, and what I raised was sufficiently general to be acceptable, you try to close down the debate. That is why our parliamentary system is weak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: If you were a stronger Chairman, you-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: -----would not be afraid of my-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I was being sufficiently respectful.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: No. I am giving you as good as you gave-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: -----and you cannot take it, and Deputy Mac Lochlainn, the "Yes" man, cannot take it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I am talking about a culture of human rights and how we understand it. If we cannot discuss that issue at this committee without getting defensive, we have no future.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I was not being overly specific in what I raised. This is not about fairness to the commissioner. Ms Logan is eminently competent and was comfortable with every aspect of my exchange with her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: It is the Chairman's fear and the discomfort of Deputy Mac Lochlainn. I am sure that Senator Zappone would have made a riveting response to some of the issues I raised. While I might not agree with all aspects of it, I would have huge respect for her contribution because it would come from a well reasoned and respectful place.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I am sorry about that. I apologise for my colleagues and for myself.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: Yes, I agree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: Yes. For the avoidance of doubt, I hope Ms Logan did not feel in anyway discomfited or drawn into unnecessary detail by any aspect of my questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission: Commissioner Designate (8 Oct 2014)

Rónán Mullen: I did not think she did.

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