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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: I will briefly interject. A teacher in Donegal or Mayo has a much better quality of life than a teacher in Dublin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: Maybe teachers in Dublin need to be paid more. Equally, there may need to be a higher minimum wage rate in Dublin. Can you get away with having a lower wage rate in the rest of the country? That is the question that arises from that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: Exactly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: Ms McCabe is basically saying that the people on the minimum wage are not those who have mortgages or are looking for affordable housing mortgages. They are mainly students.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: I will follow up on that calculation on the living wage. Given that it is coming from Europe, has Mr. Jennings done any calculations as to whether it is binding on the State or whether we have some leeway to ignore it? I am speaking from a position of ignorance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: It is not a directive.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: So, we basically do have that discretion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: I raised the issue before about stupid items in terms of insurance costs. Can I have some opinions on that from Mr. Jennings or Mr. Stanley, but also from Retail Excellence Ireland, in terms of the other side of it? I mentioned this during a debate on a motion on antisocial behaviour and the consequences of it, and we had presentations earlier form retailers talking about defamation claims...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: The costs are massive.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: Briefly, anecdotally, how many of those would be people basically scamming the system? They were shoplifting before but they are trying to catch you out for a false accusation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Enterprise, Tourism and Employment: Competitiveness and the Cost of Doing Business in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Oct 2025)

Paul Gogarty: I was just indicating that I will have to go to speak in the Chamber shortly.

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