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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I appreciate that. My only other question is whether the Minister knows the cost of the production of this report.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: No, the cost of producing it. I am referring to the fees associated with the reviewers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I would.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: We can get that information. I thank the Minister and invite Deputy Mitchell to pose questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I was not aware that this matter was still ongoing. We obviously have to tread carefully in such matters. I appreciate the response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: In an attempt to be helpful to Deputy Rabbitte, I have the report and it refers to the recommendations of the operational review. It is the only operational review that was carried out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: Perhaps I mistook what Deputy Rabbitte said. Has HIQA seen the reviewers' report?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: Forgive me. I thought I misheard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I believe Deputy Lisa Chambers asked a relevant question that the Minister has not answered. She asked if the legal advice had been provided to the authors.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I seek clarification on the Minister's opening statement vis-à-visthe information provided for the Department by the Attorney General. The Minister said:Having been advised by the board of its decision I then sought the advice of the Attorney General ... In light of the risks and based on the legal advice received, I gave the matter careful consideration and in July 2018 I concluded...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: The Attorney General reviewed the report rather than the legal advice. Deputy Chambers has questioned this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: We will have a second round of questions. In fairness, Deputy Rabbitte has indicated that she wishes to come back in. I also wish to make a contribution and Deputy Neville may wish to make one. We will then come back to Deputy Sherlock. Does the Minister have anything to add on the last point made by Deputy Sherlock?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: That was the initial question I asked.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: In fairness, the Minister did allude to that response following my initial question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I am not casting aspersions on anyone, but that was what I had gleaned earlier. As Chairman, I believe there is a question about this document. It has been shared with the Department of Children and Youth Affairs, the board of the Oberstown centre, HIQA, the Attorney General and the Minister. It has been shared with these four institutions and their relevant heads. The committee is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: I am referring to either the full document or an engagement with the board of the Oberstown centre to flesh out the views of the members of the board and the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: The Minister spent some time at the beginning of her contribution in referring to the fact that HIQA had provided relatively positive reports on the Oberstown centre, albeit some issues remain outstanding. This represents progress since the incidents in 2016. The facility has shown a clear pathway to improving standards. Following my visit not long ago, it was clear to me that some of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: Some of the recommendations were published, but I want to be confident that the Minister has confidence that HIQA has reviewed the reviewers' report and taken it into consideration on an ongoing basis in the course of it business.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: Deputy Chambers has referred to whether the Minister took the view that there would be a requirement at any point in the future for a further review. The Minister has said she believed HIQA was fulfilling that function. I am alluding to her answer to the last question. My only observation is that there may be certain elements of the unpublished report that received the attention of those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus: Minister for Children and Youth Affairs (18 Dec 2018)

Alan Farrell: Yes.

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