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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will have it checked. Will the Deputy draw our attention to the point exactly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will have that matter checked by viewing the video recording and we will correct the record, if it is not correct.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: If members wish to make corrections, will they e-mail them to the clerk of the committee? We will have the video checked again and we will correct the record at the next opportunity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I appreciate that, Deputy Mulherin. We will have the matter checked and will verify it with members. We will correct it at the next opportunity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: May I interrupt? The clerk to the committee has checked out the transcript and wishes to point out that the correction made by Ms Carmel Foley appears on page 28 of the transcript in the second contribution by Ms. Foley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I think it is established that these are two companies involved in security and technology.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Minister is clearly stating that he accepts that neither he, I nor anybody on this committee has the technical expertise to adjudicate on that, and that the High Court judge is the best placed person-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: -----with the backup expertise, to adjudicate on that issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Time is running on and the Minister must be in the Dáil at 7.30 p.m. for Private Members' business. I suggest that the Deputy ask a final question and the Minister can incorporate it in his response to the next questioner.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The following members are listed to ask questions. Deputy Charles Flanagan, who is not present, but if he returns, he will speak, Deputy Halligan, Senator O'Keeffe, Senator Thomas Byrne, and Deputies Jack Wall, Lucinda Creighton, Mick Wallace, Clare Daly, Luke 'Ming' Flanagan and Thomas Pringle.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will try to facilitate everybody. I will allow six minutes to those who are not members of this committee. Let me add that members do not need to take eight minutes, if the questions have been asked already and the answers given, the member does not need to repeat the same questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will deal with that as it arises. I ask members to be brief and keep questions sharp.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will try to elicit a response on that. While the Minister has covered a great deal of that ground, he may wish respond on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will take one final question from Senator Ó Clochartaigh.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Has the Minister been briefed on IMSI technology? Has anybody briefed him on the technology and the threat and why it would be relevant to them saying it is Government technology standard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: May I just clarify. Has anyone advised the Minister that IMSI technology, no matter who would be utilising it, would be used only for surveillance reasons and that IMSI technology-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I shall ask again. In terms of IMSI technology, has anybody in the Minister's Department explained to him that if IMSI technology was detected that it can be utilised not just for UK 3G but other telephone networks? Would the Minister accept that if IMSI technology has been detected, regardless of whether it was Government standard, that it would be used for surveillance purposes? Is that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: In terms of IMSI technology has the Minister been advised that IMSI technology would be used for any reason other than surveillance?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I thank the Minister. That is fine. The next questioner is Deputy Halligan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Surveillance Issues: Minister for Justice and Equality (19 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: "Next to zero" was the exact phraseology.

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