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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Absolutely not.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Where is it in the ether?

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Independence-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: -----and control.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Nothing in my mind would say that.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is not my intention.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: We are not suggesting that.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is unworthy of the Tánaiste to suggest that nobody from this side of the House mentioned victims. The whole focus of establishing an oversight body is to address the concerns of victims.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: There is no hierarchy of concern with regard to victims. That should not have been said. The central point I want to make in the amendment is that, objectively, and I have dealt with many bodies and reviews and so on, it is not appropriate to have the Secretary General of the Department on it. That is not anti-Secretary General; that is daft. It is nothing to do with the personalities....

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 7: In page 14, to delete lines 34 and 35.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 9: In page 25, line 27, to delete “other than the Secretary General,”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 10: In page 27, to delete lines 10 to 38, and in page 28, to delete lines 1 and 2 and substitute the following: “(ii) by the deletion of subsection (3).”. These amendments deal with the prohibition by the Minister of certain actions by the recognised associations. Prima facie, they appear very draconian in the context of the restrictions...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: The Tánaiste is not correct in saying that if my amendment were accepted, it would debar the association of the representative bodies with ICTU. What I am proposing is the deletion of a swath of the restrictions he has included and the substitution of "by the deletion of subsection (3) [of the principal Act]". My concern is only that it is overly prescriptive if management, that is,...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is quite clear. The great advance the Tánaiste has included in the Bill is as follows: (3A) The Minister may, notwithstanding subsection (3), authorise in writing an association to be associated with a trade union or any other body outside of the Defence Forces [this is the catch.] in such cases and in such manner and subject to such conditions or restrictions as he or she may...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Could the Tánaiste just respond to that?

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I would just like to hear the answer.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is a very draconian framework.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 14: In page 28, line 22, after "members" to insert "as provided for by subsection (1)".

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 15: In page 28, lines 23 and 24, to delete "concerning a political matter or matter of Government policy" and substitute "concerning a matter of political controversy".

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