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Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The cost of collecting this revenue is less than the revenue collected. The figures the Deputy has outlined-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have told the Deputy on numerous occasions I will get him those data. I have outlined all the costs.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have outlined all the costs regarding this on numerous occasions, making up to €899 million that will be spent. I have also outlined the €130 million in the conservation grant on numerous occasions. The CER looked at the costs. Customer operation costs are on its site. As I have said previously, I will get the Deputy those data. The water conservation grant is a...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The only-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have the figures.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I took the intervening time to get Deputy Donnelly's figures and I apologise for not having them before. The €130 million is based on the best "guesstimates" of volume of households, as I outlined earlier. The Deputies opposite can accept that or reject it but those are the estimates given to me.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: Deputy Donnelly argued that costs could potentially be in excess of charges and some points should be borne in mind. One cannot include the €130 million, which is an allowance given to everybody. It is not relevant in comparing costs and charges of Irish Water. The cost of billing and metering is estimated at €22 million. If that is deducted from €271 million, it...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have just outlined it.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have answered the question.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: Financing.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: We have the figures.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The figures are out there.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have given the figure.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is administered like any other grant. How would one disaggregate that cost?

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: How would the Department explain how it does the Christmas bonus and everything else? That is impossible.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I do not.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The Department of Social Protection does it.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I do not have those figures.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: What about the millions of euro we are saving by getting more people employed?

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: Why does the Deputy not look up more to the Visitors Gallery?

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