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Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Professor Fitzpatrick mentioned the tri-location of the Coombe with the children's hospital on the St. James's Hospital site. The Coombe is currently only a short distance from St. James's Hospital and, similarly, the Rotunda Hospital is only a short distance from the Mater Hospital. These were never, in any equation, contiguous sites.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is a tenuous link to a maternity hospital in that in either case there is one approximately half a mile down the road.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: On an issue I have not got an answer to yet, and Professor Fitzpatrick might be of help by way of general information, what will happen to Crumlin children's hospital and Temple Street Children's University Hospital? We were told this project will integrate all of them and that everything will be in the one location. What will happen to those? Does Professor Fitzpatrick have any idea?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. What will happen to those buildings?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does anyone know?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Other health facilities but not the children's hospital.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Professor Fitzpatrick mentioned that the original idea was that the national paediatric hospital would be located adjacent to the Coombe Hospital.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that site there or is it gone?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is not the Player Wills site.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have the map, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. Player Wills is out of NAMA now.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know. I just wanted to know.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: When we meet the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board, we will talk money, but we need to understand the medical background to ensure we ask the right questions. Of the 200 babies Professor Fitzpatrick just mentioned, how many of them are being born in the Rotunda or Holles Street hospitals?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: They would not all be happening in the Coombe Hospital anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Under this plan, would it have involved taking the babies at risk-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: And Northern Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I want to be sure we understand that before we speak to the paediatric board, and Professor Fitzpatrick will know this off the top of his head. We are the Committee of Public Accounts. We are not the Committee on Health, so we do not have this information, but it would be helpful for our understanding of the position to know approximately how many children are being born in the Coombe,...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: In other words, would sorting out one of the three maternity hospitals in Dublin by having it adjacent to Professor Fitzpatrick's hospital do much for the other two thirds of children being born in the other hospitals? I am just asking the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: In terms of being close to the new paediatric hospital. If Crumlin hospital is integrated into the St. James's Hospital site, that is fine for Crumlin hospital, but it does not solve anything for babies born in Holles Street or the Rotunda. I am probably asking the question in a very-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: While he did not say it, I detect from Professor Fitzpatrick that because St. James' is an adult hospital and has a cancer specialty, it is possible that staff from there may be more interested in having spare capacity on the site for cancer services rather than maternity services. I get the impression that this is a worry.

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