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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: The one good thing I see in the report is the draft for the 2018 performance report. It need not be put up on the screen. On page 13 there is a figure showing the uncertified accounts at the end of the year. I am not referring to the appropriation accounts but, rather, the performance report 2018. The witnesses are familiar with it. In 2013 and 2014, there were approximately 60...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: If the loss occurred due to weakness, the Comptroller and Auditor General will publish it if-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: If there is a weakness which may not have resulted in a loss but there is the possibility that it would if not corrected, that is a management letter issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. It is a rough overview. Mr. McCarthy referred to an issue being "material". Is that based on its accounting for approximately 1% of turnover of the organisation or more? I know that it is different for organisations.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: €50,000 is €50,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: What the public are hearing from Mr. McCarthy is that the level of materiality applied by his office is very low relative to private sector audits.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Zero tolerance.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: As close as can be.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I wish to draw this section of the meeting to a close. The committee thanks Ms Drinan, Mr. McCarthy and Mr. Barron for their attendance. It has been a useful engagement. The committee wished to explore the operation of the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General. We are very familiar with the office because we deal with it frequently and understand a significant amount of its...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 8 - Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
(11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: There are five or six votes, which could take most of an hour. I suggest 2.30 p.m. or as soon as possible thereafter.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will now commence our third session. At our meeting last week, we agreed to invite Professor Chris Fitzpatrick to attend this meeting following his correspondence with the committee regarding the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board's financial statements for 2017. I welcome Professor Fitzpatrick, who is a consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist at the Coombe Women and...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: We got Professor Fitzpatrick's opening statement. Is he reading a long version of it?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: Professor Fitzpatrick is reading a summarised version.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have the long script here and was not following it line by line.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will publish this and put it on the record.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: The professor is giving us the key points.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I understand now.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Professor Fitzpatrick. He has been very direct and straight to the point which we appreciate. I call Deputy Connolly first.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have two questions for Professor Fitzpatrick. On the tri-location, we all had heard that it was a key element.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters Relating to the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board Financial Statements 2017: Professor Chris Fitzpatrick (11 Apr 2019)

Seán Fleming: When did it enter the mix as a relevant issue or was it always in the mix?

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