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Order of Business. (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: No, I am not. What is the established procedure in the House?

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: They have contradicted each other.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: The Minister wants to respond.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: On a point of order-——

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: A Cheann Comhairle, do you agree that the record of the House——

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I want your view on the matter.

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: A Cheann Comhairle, do you agree that the record of the House should reflect the true position?

Order of Business (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: That was a threat as well.

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I agree there is a serious problem that needs to be addressed in the context of the amendments and the importance of the legislation before the House. Everybody agrees with the necessity of the legislation and the urgent need to deal with this serious issue. It must be dealt with now. However, in light of the questions raised by Deputy Gilmore, others and the leaders of the Fine Gael and...

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: Whatever we have, the Minister must be able to come into the House and accept responsibility.

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: In any circumstances, it is imperative that the Minister of any Department should be capable of answering questions honestly in the House. If information is withheld from the Minister, for one reason or another, the Minister does not need legislation in order to determine what to do. This has been well established by precedent. The problem now is, apparently, that three or four years ago when...

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: Did Deputy O'Donoghue refer the matter to the Attorney General?

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: On a point of order——

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I have a serious point of order. I am confused——

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I am seeking clarification as to which report the Minister is referring.

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: Is the Minister referring to the case file or the Carty report?

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: Are there two separate——

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I presume there are two separate and distinct files. One is the file prepared for possible prosecution——

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: ——and the other is the Carty report. Is that true?

Garda Síochána Bill 2004 [Seanad]: Report Stage (Resumed). (23 Jun 2005)

Bernard Durkan: I am not as confused as the Minister.

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