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Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: How does Mr. Purcell explain how a saving of €30 million could be so easily achieved?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: I thank Mr. Purcell. I wish to ask a few further questions about the number of allowances. It appears as though some people in various grades from assistant chief officer and upwards are being paid more than 15 allowances. Is this correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Is that not crackers?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: At all levels, if they are on huge numbers.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Is this not an administrative nightmare?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: If one goes down the scale slightly - I believe these figures were supplied by the Department - more than 11 allowances are being received by 125 assistant chief officers. I note that 93 assistant chief officers of a different grade and 12 assistant governors are getting more than 11 allowances. To administer this must be absolutely impossible.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: It seems bonkers to me. How does the Department administer its payroll system?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Would the Department not consider rationalising the whole thing by incorporating them all as core pay and getting on with it?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: What does their pay cheque look like every week? Must they have these 15 allowances categorised on each pay cheque?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Someone must input this information.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Must people be employed to do this work?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: How many people must the Department employ to input the information onto this massive process?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Of the aforementioned 200 staff, how many are dealing with this problem?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: How many are working full-time on the payroll?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Yes. I do not want to ask the Secretary General a question he cannot answer as that would not be fair, but it would be interesting to know how much this arrangement costs in terms of administration.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: By whom?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Not Mazars. Members have come across it before.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Do not tell me it was Mazars.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: That is worse.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

Shane Ross: Can I ask a question about judges' allowances?

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