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Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: It would be useful to know whether the Minister had taken the view on board. Can he get information on the practicality of his proposal by Report Stage?

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: That would be splendid. I understand the point made about the use of videos by the criminal classes for entertainment purposes or for frightening or harassing witnesses. I know they display them in pubs but that seems to be much more likely to occur following an interview situation, where they give smart alec answers. I cannot imagine there would be much mileage in photographing the taking of...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I have been contacted by a constituent who is an Olympic shooter and has significant problems. A cousin of mine has shot at Bisley. Shooting is a legitimate sport. Due to what my constituent feels are loose definitions of firing ranges or gun clubs in this Bill, he is afraid it may not be possible for young people to train effectively in this reasonable sport. He would support the Minister...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I have good news. Having rushed down to my office and back to the Chamber, I discover that what I had looked at but did not think was my briefing material actually was the material. I should not have doubted the wonderful and efficient Miriam. That reminds me that when I was in a butcher's shop on Parnell Street a couple of days ago a man said in a very accusing voice, "Are you David Norris?"...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: This addresses the very subject about which we were talking.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: On Second Stage the Minister and Senator Jim Walsh nodded when I mentioned country pursuits. This is a fact of life. My correspondent is interested in the question of definitions, not just ages. He indicates that guns were removed wholesale because of the "Troubles" although this failed to stem the "Troubles". The only people who observed it were the legitimate users of gun clubs and it...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: The Minister surprises me.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: They will not look for a licence.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I took the opportunity of transferring to the Minister the correspondence that had been sent to me on this subject. The problem is one of definition. I hope the Minister will be able to look at this situation again and make it very clear to the gun clubs exactly what their situation is in terms of matters like being able to make appeals and registration. While Senator Jim Walsh raised this...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: The first was by the Minister and the second was by me.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: In that case, the Senator cannot count. Will the Minister examine the material and make a response?

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: Indeed they did. Some of them were shot in the 1960s.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: The person might be a member of Sinn Féin.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I sympathise with the Minister's argument, but could he meet Senator Cummins half way? The Senator could amend his amendment to refer to persons convicted of violent crimes including the use of firearms and table it on Report Stage.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: Then the Minister has won hands down. He has certainly persuaded me.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: It is addressed by the next amendment.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: The Senator remembers him well. He was in this House.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I listened with great interest to Senator Henry who comes from the coal face of the medical profession. I had not realised the level of injury because it is not reported in the newspapers. I recall when the restrictions on fireworks were brought in during the late 1940s or mid-1950s.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

David Norris: I understand that and I listened with great respect to the Senator. I recall when the ban was introduced a firework shop in Donnybrook exploded and people were killed. I also recall an incident similar to the one Senator Henry mentioned which involved not children but a Trinity student. During some prank a rocket went down her boot and blew her leg off. She was an adult and this section would...

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