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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: That is very helpful. With regard to the agenda for next week, can we flag with the Department that this will be raised as it has been raised at this committee in the past few weeks?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Is that fair enough? I do not know what is on the agenda in terms of Mr. Watt from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform coming in but this is an important issue that has been raised here and we could give him due notice of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: That is perfect. I thank the Chairman for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: I agree with the Deputy. I do not want to sound like a broken record but it has a relevancy when it comes to the levying of commercial rates as well. Whether it is the spending of the property tax or the levying of commercial rates, it is an issue that needs scrutiny. It is unchecked in some local authorities as far as I can see.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: I would like to pick up on the point Mr. Ó Foghlú just made about engagement on the ground. He said a couple of times that this area is reviewed constantly and that the Department has learned a great deal since the initial approaches. I suppose I am trying to get a picture of what is happening with regard to TalkTalk. Can Mr. Ó Foghlú give the committee an idea of what...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: The expansion of the programme has led to more inclusion. Is that it, in effect?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: According to figures I have seen, the level of participation in the measures is 62% in the case of TalkTalk, 55% in the case of Dell, 57% in the case of Waterford Crystal and 50% in the case of SR Technics. There is an increase in the case of TalkTalk, but it is not massive. Can Mr. Ó Foghlú explain the factors that apply to the 38% of TalkTalk workers who do not get involved in,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: I do not have a calculator, but on the basis of the figure Mr. Ó Foghlú has just given, the participation rate among TalkTalk workers has reached 70%. I presume he considers that to be a very high percentage.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Does Mr. Ó Foghlú have a rough idea of the reasons 30% of people have not engaged to date?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: It seems the Department has tracked down and accounted for the majority of those who were affected by redundancy in this case. That is fair enough. Does the Department have any idea of what the projected underspend will be when the course finishes in February 2014? That might be a difficult question. I would like Mr. Ó Foghlú to compare the figure in the case of TalkTalk with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: I presume the Department is hopeful, based on the reviews it has done, the changes it has made and the expansion to include certain areas, that the underspend will be far less than it was in the previous cases.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: No, that is fair enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: I would like to ask Dr. Fields about the design of the courses, which was mentioned earlier. The case of TalkTalk is relevant to where I am from. The bigger picture relates to the national agencies that deal with these cases. How much interaction and connectivity do Dr. Fields and his colleagues have with IDA Ireland and Enterprise Ireland when they are designing courses? When the two...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: The expert group is the nexus or main forum for interaction.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Who oversees this interaction?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: Is Dr. Fields aware of the issues I have raised? Do such minutiae reach his desk? An example of a big issue would be an advance factory not being available or the language deficit in the south east to which I referred. Does such information reach Dr. Fields and is it filtered down at that point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

John Deasy: What is the process for releasing the report?

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