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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does he have regard for the findings of SIPOC?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Doyle will, therefore, appreciate that in the context of where only 3% of complaints made are investigated, which is how seriously SIPOC takes its role, that it would be a very serious allegation before SIPOC would consider it. In that, the finding was an adverse one against a person as a public official. Can I ask Mr. Doyle to look at this in this context, bearing in mind that the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am asking Mr. Doyle about his view as the Secretary General in advising the Minister. Every Secretary General who has appeared before the Committee of Public Accounts is, in some shape or form, responsible. I am not asking if the Minister has accepted his view but I am asking is if he has a view as the person in the position which he holds? Mr. Doyle said he had regard, a high regard I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Ministers come and go but Mr. Doyle has-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I did not ask the Secretary General a question there as that part of my question was a statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am not personalising this as we must have accountability. Perhaps Mr. Doyle is not able to answer the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Did I say that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will rephrase the question. If the Minister had asked Mr. Doyle's opinion in appointing somebody to public office who had a damning Standards in Public Office Commission, SIPO, report to their name, would he have agreed with the appointment as the Secretary General and as someone who said he holds standards in public office in high esteem?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: A "Yes" or "No" will do.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will read the wording for Mr. Doyle again.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I asked a very straightforward question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is only a "Yes" or "No" answer. Would Mr. Doyle have advised the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am trying to be fair to him. It is a "Yes" or "No" answer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Which means we have no regard for SIPO.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: What does it mean?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will come back in, Chairman. We will have to help; he is not answering the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Hypothetically-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: He is waffling.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: Let me put it back for you. Hypothetically-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(23 Jun 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am only asking one question. I will clarify it. Hypothetically, if a chief executive was being offered a role by a Minister and been investigated by SIPO, the report of which used the words "disproportionate and inappropriate and lacking in courtesy and respect, thereby bringing disrepute upon his position and the Council" and stated that the content, tone, style and language of the...

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