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Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: From reading through the different documentation we have got since this petition was first submitted, what seems to be happening here is that the HSE is coming up with reasons to have closed this facility and making these fit the decision that was taken. This is rather than having done this the other way round, which would be doing everything properly, going through every channel and then...

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: For the information of members, the five-bed wards have become four-bed wards. The physical space was available. It was not, as stated in the witness's opening statement, that there was a space between beds of 76 cm. That applied when there were five beds in the wards. Making them four-bed wards made room for wardrobes or more space between beds. I grant that the shower facilities were...

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: I appreciate that the witness has experience in building. I have 40 years' experience and other members also have experience. It is not difficult to tie in a new building to an old building. We heard about the report that was done. When was the time that St. Brigid's flooded, that there is such a worry about it now? We have not come across anyone in Carrick-on-Suir who can ever remember...

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: There are old healthcare buildings all around the country onto which extensions have been put and that has not been a problem.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: The question was about costings. We all understand the five-bed and all the problems. Were the costings done?

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: There were no costings done.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: We are back to opinions. Like I said at the start, this is a case of just having an opinion and closing some place down. Just coming back before Senator Craughwell, we keep hearing about reports done in previous years and all that. Being closed down was the culmination of them. Where are these reports? We, in the committee, and people down there have always asked for them. There is...

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: The HIQA reports never mention it not being fit for purpose; it is the HSE that has included that. As I said earlier, that makes it sound as if the HSE's decision to close it down is because there was something massive. The HSE mentioned it three times and HIQA never mentions it being not fit for purpose.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: But we do not known if the decision was made without those costings. Senator Craughwell is next.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: The Deputy's name is down.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: The Senator can continue. Deputy Buckley will be next.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: To be clear, we have taken the names as they indicated to speak.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: Yes.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: I welcome everyone to our public meeting. Apologies have been received from Senator Warfield.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: I thank Ms Killeen White. Before I let others in, I will make some points. On behalf of this committee, I express our full appreciation for what the staff down there have done, as well as the wider community in Carrick-on-Suir and counties Kilkenny and Waterford for all the fundraising undertaken through the years to keep St. Brigid's open. In the correspondence we keep getting back from...

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: I will let in Deputy Mattie McGrath, who is substituting for Deputy O'Donoghue-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: The primary care centre.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: Sorry. We will not start making accusations.

Committee on Public Petitions: Public Petition on St. Brigid’s Hospital, Carrick-on-Suir (Resumed): Health Service Executive (9 Feb 2023)

Martin Browne: We will look for the facts.

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