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Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It was in 1988?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Apologies I thought it was 1992, from memory.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: My second question is, do we know in the last year or two years how many people are better off on TCA versus the averaging system? In other words, everyone goes in and the calculations are done for them and the years spent caring for children are taken into account in one system and are not in the other system. It is all put in a mixing bowl and an answer comes out. Then we either go for...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Will the Minister clarify what each third is?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That was not the question I asked. I asked about this year.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Do we know for real so we are not guessing? For this year, when the calculation and the mixing bowl is done, and the TCA and averaging calculations are done, do we know how many-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How many did they then actually do on the averaging and on the TCA? That is why I was a bit puzzled about the third, third, and the third because there are only two choices. It is binary. I spend time, like every other TD I presume, looking at the contribution records and doing the calculations - getting the kid's birth dates and all of the rest. At the moment, it seems that a lot more...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I would never begrudge anybody and I am sure the Minister would not either.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I would say the Minister's heart bleeds for the person who did five weeks at 18 and then started back at 54 years of age and they lose out because of the few extra contributions. I agree that the averaging is full of anomalies. However I am still interested to find out how many people in the last year - because that is an actuality of fact - were better off on the averaging system, given...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Will the Minister outline exactly what is in section 9? It seems to relate to income exempt from limits.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How will this tie in when we get into pay-related measures?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Leas-Chathaoirleach is in an awful hurry. Will the Minister outline the operation of section 13?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is a very good improvement and in fact goes back to where we were. It is back to the future. I agree with that. In fact, there is a good case that for as long as children are in full-time education, that should be paid. That is a big step. Will the Minister explain why it is 3 September rather than 1 January?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: All the other rises are from 1 January, are they not?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There are disappointed people out there, although not a lot of them. If you are-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I congratulate the Minister on that. How expensive is it?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is for the full year.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is out of a budget of €25 billion.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The point is taken. Does the Minister accept that is the equivalent of €64 out of €25,000, proportionately?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is proportionate to €64 out of €25,000. If you had €25,000 it would be like spending €64. If you start talking about billions, it is impossible for people to grasp the proportionality in question. As the Minister knows, no more than myself, if you come up with a saving or expenditure in a Department of €1 million, it does not save any money. It is...