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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Fully accounted?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: The full extent of such resource inputs also includes people whose advice is obtained.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: For example, a person's time coming over to the desk to give advice might be clocked in as time on the project. That is what is meant when Ms McGrath says it is not being assiduously observed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: They may have spent 15 minutes thinking. Nevertheless, an estimate of technical contributions recorded from 2010 to 2013 on this project, such as architectural engineering and quantity surveying services equates to one person for 58 weeks. Why is the period from 2010 to 2013 and not from 2007 when the OPW was first engaged by the Department of the Taoiseach?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: There was a pause in the concentration of work. How was the estimate of the technical contributions achieved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: It was shown that person A spent ten hours-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I would like to have a detailed note on how that figure of one person for 58 weeks was arrived at and why the period is from 2010 to 2013. That information is important in order to be certain that the OPW is keeping a record of the work it is carrying out for anybody, not just in this instance but at any time. What is the cost of one person for 58 weeks? What grade is that person?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I would like to have a note on those pay scales.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: When Ms Murphy refers to one person for 58 weeks, is she talking about seven-day weeks or five-day weeks?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: And a normal working day?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: The committee has received correspondence about this. People have questions about how the OPW is conducting its work in these instances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: That is clear from the conversation we are having. I am not raising any questions in that regard. However, the answer Deputy Kevin Humphreys received did not contain the level of detail I would like to have seen. It was not clear, for example, whether time was being clocked on the project or if there was a way of saying that an architect was at a desk doing work for a specific period of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I am about to conclude, Chairman. I am asking about the current state of play in regard to this particular project. It is important to see where we are at. The oral hearings concluded in November 2013. Did that mark the end of the OPW's involvement in the project or is there more work to come?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Would any further work on this project by the OPW require a direction from Government?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Are any further bills expected relating to the external service providers who were engaged on the project?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: When the OPW engages the expertise of external services, are other Departments generally involved in that process? In the case of this specific project, was any other State entity involved or was the OPW alone engaged in the planning and design?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Am I right in saying that the OPW will not have a role during the construction phase?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: The question of any further involvement will depend on a direction from Government.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I would like to clarify one matter with Ms McGrath. It is absolutely right that we should support our culture and heritage and that - as is the case in this instance - we should use State services to do so. In case there is any confusion, I am not calling into question how the OPW did its work in this instance or how it does that work normally. I am merely seeking more details in respect...

Written Answers — Department of Environment, Community and Local Government: Irish Water Staff (4 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: 468. To ask the Minister for Environment, Community and Local Government if the creation of Irish Water will lead to any local authority staff responsible for water services being made redundant or being re-allocated within the authority to non-water services functions; and if not, the reason for same. [5311/14]

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