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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have one more question. The CLÁR programme is focused on population loss in the most rural areas and those areas where there has been the highest depopulation since 1926. Will the success of the rural development policies, including CLÁR, be measured against the census figures to see if, compared with the increase nationally, we are getting less population growth or continuing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I refer to the situation relative to the general increase in population. In other words, if there was a 5% increase in the population of CLÁR areas and the average national increase has been approximately 7% or 8%, then these areas are still falling behind in relative context. If the population in these areas is actually declining, then we have got a crisis. We should be putting up a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Would it be possible for us to get the maps?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: These are obviously CSO data, but people previously doing interpreting for us at a granular level were from Maynooth University.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There is no point, however, going back five years. We need to go back and take a period of ten or 15 years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I agree with the Cathaoirleach on that point. My other point, though, is that if we went back to the period from 2006 to 2011, we would find that the population in most areas was rising. From 2011 to 2016, then, there was a decline and from 2016 to 2022, there was an increase nationally. We must, therefore, keep indexing these data over a longer period because we get ups and downs in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That gives you one fact. It does not give you the real facts, as Mr. Mulherin found out the week before last. The other metric that is massive on islands is the number of sailings that cannot take place in the winter because of the weather. Obviously, if people are living on an island 365 days a year and that is where their permanent home is, which is what we want, they still need to be in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Department of Rural and Community Development (12 Jul 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am saying we should have both. We need the total access because that is the lifeblood with the tourists.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I welcome this legislation. Time and again, all of us who look at welfare realise the single most disadvantaged group in society are lone parents. Budget after budget, all the evidence is that is so. I also have a view, which is well known here, that means testing can be very crippling because people are trying to get above the basic payment the State pays. Let us call the €220...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: If somebody is going to court and so on, he or she has to be forewarned that it is much better to get the money for the child than for himself or herself because that is the way that person will keep the maximum amount of money. We need to have a further debate about the mechanics of this so that the person looking for maintenance realises the implications of the money being paid to him or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is a pre-2002 figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is when the euro came in. That was 22-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: But the opposite of that is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How many people are in receipt of the one-parent family payment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: What is the figure including transition?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How many of those, when the settlement of maintenance is applied, have a deduction because of maintenance?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Can we get the figure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I know that, and I know what is said on the street on one side, but there is another side to the story. Let us say that we are coming in here and we are going to introduce all these targets. What do they call them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Performance indicators. Let us say that 10% are being caught by the €95.23. First of all, it would not be a big cost to the Department to increase the payment dramatically, back to where it was. Second, if we were to introduce a performance indicator that aimed to take 10% of one-parent families out of poverty, it would be a hell of an achievement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Social Welfare (Child Maintenance and Liable Relatives) Bill 2023: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That could be done for very little money. It is the idea that we will help people up to a point and then they are jumping out of poverty. As I keep emphasising, in this case in particular we are talking about two generations. My view is that every cohort of people we can get out of the catch-22 that is involved in these schemes, the better.

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