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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Before getting to Deputy Neville, I ask again how we can ask for more funding when we still do not know how money is being spent. I am specifically referring to CAMHS.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: There can be no response to that really as we will have to wait on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: What are the figures for the clinical and non-clinical staff in the HSE mental health services? I would like those figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank Deputy Rabbitte. When Ms O'Connor provides Deputy Rabbitte and the committee with that information, will she also give a timeframe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Not now but when Ms O'Connor is sending in the information. I apologise to Senator Devine. There was a list before me and this is why she is at the end. Please go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: What is the timeframe for the eating disorder service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is based in Dublin south west at the moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I will summarise what we are looking for in a moment. Why does the HSE never implement or listen to the recommendations in the thousands of reports that have been done on mental health services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Only approximately 50% of A Vision for Change has been implemented. How many years is it since it was published?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am aware that it is being reviewed. It is a review of a review of a review. I am curious about the thousands of reports. There was a magnificent cognitive psychiatry piece on the recruitment and retention of clinical staff. I do not suppose there is an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: How long has this been going on? Ms O'Connor is putting a positive spin on it. She says that the HSE is looking at it and things are about to be implemented. We need to know when that will happen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We do not know where the money is being spent in some areas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We are looking for the CAMHS spending down to the last penny.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We find that a little bit-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We would not be if Mr. Sullivan could tell us how he spent the €70 and came back with a receipt. I am sorry, Mr. Sullivan, but this is a pointless argument because we have asked this question over and over. Deputy Browne wants to ask a question now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: With a new director general coming in, are there going to be more changes? Is he or she going to adopt and accept this new structure or will there be more changes?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Mr. Sullivan does not know if this new director is going to make any change.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Logic does not always win, though, does it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am going to summarise exactly what we have asked the witnesses to do today, if that is alright. Deputy Neville asked-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Thank you, Deputy. Deputy Neville was looking for an organisational structure chart, and I added that it should include numbers in each section. We will send the witnesses an official request for this. Could they also add the figures for clinical and non-clinical staff out of the whole of the mental health services, sub-divided into the numbers working in HR, finance and some of the other...

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