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Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: I thank the witnesses very much. A number of my colleagues have some questions. As they are asked, whoever feels like answering them should feel free to do so. We will start with Deputy Ó Broin.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: While I agree we should do that, we might also include the Minister, Deputy Simon Coveney, in the correspondence because he will be the final witness in these hearings. It will allow the Deputy an opportunity to question him then.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: The committee is agreed on that proposal.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: The case has been explained. I want to focus on the job in hand. Are there proposals or questions-----

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: I accept the background but I want to make sure that we-----

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: While I agree with the Deputy, to broaden the point, the recommendations must be such that they will not just be for this cohort. To return to what Deputy Ó Broin said earlier, our recommendations must be across the board.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: There are two elements to it. One is the acquisition of the properties, while the other is recognising that the people in them must be serviced in different ways because they have different needs. They are not all going to be mortgage schemes or local authority tenants. There will be a mix and this must apply in the broader community if the State manages to buy them. They will form part...

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: I ask Deputy Coppinger not to provoke Deputy Durkan.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: The witnesses very adequately set out the case and I find myself in agreement with Deputy Ó Broin in saying that, as a committee, we are not looking at Tyrrelstown in isolation or as it being the public face of a potential problem, as was referred to in the opening presentation. That is important. All the previous speakers, including Deputy Durkan, referred to the difficulties...

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: Yes.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: I am not disagreeing with the Deputy.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: I am not disagreeing with the Deputy. I am saying the committee's responsibility is not just to rely on that. We must come forward with a recommendation to ensure it happens. That is the differentiation I am making. The Deputy talks about their moral and social responsibilities, which they may well have, but our recommendations have to be a bit more binding than depending on those...

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: Or mortgage to rent.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: There will be a forum for us to deal with this. We have witnesses before us and that will be a separate issue.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: That is your proposal. The committee has agreed to seek the correspondence and have it when the Minister appears before us.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: The Deputy had several proposals.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: You will be more than welcome to do so.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: There is a final contribution before we can revert to the witnesses.

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: There are a number of points-----

Committee on Housing and Homelessness: Tyrrelstown Residents (19 May 2016)

John Curran: It has been clearly identified that this matter is complex and that there is more than one issue involved. There has also been some discussion about the right of people to sell or not. It is unusual in the residential property market that units are sold with vacant possession. If one is selling a commercial unit and there is a rent roll, the rent roll normally dictates the selling price....

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