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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: The citizens' assembly here is bypassed most of the time. Then we have a separate citizens' assembly that meets occasionally on issues that is costing the State €1.9 million. That is just clarification again. Could the Minister of State give me a list of tribunals that the Department of the Taoiseach is responsible for and all of the costs to date for them?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Is that the only one?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State might just furnish us with the costs and give us the overall cost along with a detailed note on the costs available.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: It is still trundling on.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: When is it likely to finish?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Okay.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Again, could the Minister of State give us a note on it? If possible, could the Department indicate how long more this is likely to go on? What is the substantial work that is left in terms of sorting out these costs and whatever other matters have to be wound down? Under the Taoiseach's Department there is the office of the Tánaiste and of the Green Party leader. I presume they...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: They do not have. So what are the staffing levels in both? Could the Minister of State provide us with a note on the expertise and qualification of each of those staff members?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: A section relates to providing support for independent work on the citizens' assembly. I presume that is just for administrative work.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: It is in a list under Vote 2. It sets out the four activities of the Department. Again, the Minister of State can provide a note.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Are there any further questions?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State has given us a note on the commissions of inquiry into NAMA and IBRC. Is a more detail available or is that the extent of the information?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: On both.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: When I was asking about tribunals, I should have said commissions of investigation also. Under head 6, office premises expenses, I see that due to increased energy costs, costs have risen by 70% which is fairly substantial. I presume that is just the fact of the matter as with any household. However, 70% seems like a big increase.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Is that just from one floor?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: There is a 10% increase in payment to legal representatives. Was that 10% arrived at through negotiation?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Therefore, it is really a 100% restoration of the cut.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: It was cut by 8%.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Okay.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Supplementary)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Supplementary)
(23 Nov 2023)

John McGuinness: Just for the moment.

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