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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: This is why I should not be trusted with accounts. It is figure 1.6, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: To cut a long story short, it is costing us money to keep this money in an account.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That is what I would have hoped. I did not like seeing that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That situation is resolved, is what Mr. Hogan is telling me.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: We have lost the money. We cannot do much about that but it has been resolved. A different issue was around debt relief payment. I welcome that we paid off a bunch of debt - IMF-administered funds for Somalia and Sudan. That kind of financing is something I very much approve of, but then we did it in the wrong way and we had to transfer moneys between central banks and the Department....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: As I say, I am quite happy with the expenditure. It is just whether we are taking steps to make sure we do not replicate the mistake.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I understand that. The last issue I will raise in the time that I have, I hope it was not raised already, is the sundry moneys account. I am looking at figure 1.9 in the Exchequer financial outturn for 2022. The sundry moneys account did not have a great deal of money in it and then we saw a huge spike in 2020. It is still there in 2021 and 2022. We have this language around how it is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Two receipts, in particular, totalling €80,000, had been knocking around those accounts for more than three years.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It might be something that the committee would benefit from in more detail.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Finance Accounts 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 1 – Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2022
Chapter 2 – Reporting Ireland’s EU Transactions
Chapter 24 – Performance of the Ireland Apple Escrow Fund
Chapter 25 – Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I thank the Chairperson.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Apologies have been received from the Cathaoirleach, Deputy Denis Naughten. Members participating remotely may do so only from within the Leinster House complex. I remind all those in attendance to make sure their mobile phones are switched off or in silent mode. Members are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the effect that they should not comment on, criticise or...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Amendments Nos. 1, 10, 11, 13 to 16, inclusive, and 19 are related and may be discussed together, by agreement. Amendment No. 19 is consequential on amendment No. 16.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Maybe the Minister can answer and then the Deputy can-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Will the Deputy let the Minister conclude and she can come back in with any additional information?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Perhaps the Minister will be able to supply those figures to the committee.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Will those be supplied to the committee?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Amendment No. 3, in the names of Deputies Naughten and Berry, has been ruled out of order due to a potential charge on the Revenue. Neither of the Deputies is present to speak to it.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Is section 13 agreed?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Perhaps the Minister will respond even though the Deputy's query is not strictly related to section 14.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: We have had a wide-ranging discussion on section 14. I will put the question.

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