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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: So we could have it next week.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Great.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Absolutely. It is on our work programme. Next, we held over No. 1595 C from our previous meeting. We will revert to it. Correspondence Nos. 1674 C, dated 22 October, and 1716 C, dated 7 November, are from an individual who made a submission to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform regarding the OPW in terms of "Strengthening Civil Service Accountability and Performance". We...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will do that. We will include the WIT report in our work programme. We can certainly deal with that matter. No statements or accounts have been received since our previous meeting. That is extraordinary. It has been a quiet week for someone.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The next item is our work programme, which we will put on screen. Today we have the Revenue Commissioners and, in the afternoon, a private session. Next Thursday, we will deal with a special chapter on hepatitis C treatment. Was the ultimate cost in the order of €1.5 billion?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are asking the people from the HSE because that was as a result of medical negligence. We do not need to go back over CervicalCheck. We pencilled it in for next week, but we had it last week. We will come back to it through correspondence. We do not need to deal with CervicalCheck every second week. Next week we hope to have a draft of our fourth periodic report. That will be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The secretariat will give us a draft for our first consideration of the matter. I ask members to take some time out before the meeting to go through it. I would like to clear that with a view to publishing it early in December. It is essential that we do that. I want to try to clear the first reading of that report and then we might have a final one after that. On 29 November, we will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will send a memorandum to all members asking them to ensure they do that because of the volume. We will not get to clear everything in that Department that day. I have listed the full programme for that Department but we will not get it all done.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We want the up-to-date position to the end of September, the end of the most recent quarter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Private session.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: They could work out the balance; it is simple.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We might suggest-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We should put the officials on notice that to assist the committee deal with issues that may be commercially sensitive, we may use the procedure to go into private session for a short period. There is one other aspect that doubles up. One of the significant payments by this Department relates to the rent supplement and the issue of HAP. Does the HAP come through the housing Vote or-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The rent supplement is easing up because HAP has been taken up. Because we are dealing with rent supplement which relates to housing, I will ask an official from the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government - not the Secretary General, but the appropriate senior person with responsibility for the rent supplement-HAP issue - to be present. That will not be finished in the morning...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We do not want them saying that a particular issue relates to the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. We need somebody from that Department here on that day. That person does not need to be here for the entire meeting. I suggest to assist the witnesses that we will hold off discussing anything relating to rent supplement, housing and HAP until the 2.30 session. It is not...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, but because that is connected with housing, I also want an official from the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government to be present on that day.

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