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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: It was a very long statement at the start. I must admit, in the middle of the process, I was being handed accusations, often in the Chamber, within the Oireachtas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: If I could finish, it might answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I felt that it was very sensitive. I must say, as Minister, I was conscious that you have to handle it in a professional, proper manner. In that instance, that was to hand it to the relevant officials in my Department who are designated to try to ascertain whether something is or is not a protected disclosure and how best to approach it. This was not normal correspondence. It was not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I do. This has not been easy. Regarding the issues raised in the last year and a half or so, I am not sure they go back into the depths of time at Inland Fisheries Ireland. There are, no doubt, many issues. The particular difficulties arose in prominence, in my opinion, in the last two years or year and a half. On the difficulties between the board of management, they are not something...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: There are immediate statutory obligations, as in respect of the accounts mentioned by the Senator earlier on. But, as I have said, there are two primary issues I have asked them to look at as a priority. One is to ensure that all protected disclosures in hand would be progressed and, second, that the review of the governance would be concluded. I expect that that would be done within a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: Our Department is reviewing some of the protected disclosures and, as I said, IFI is reviewing others. They each have been headed up to manage that and our Department has mechanisms for doing that. We have direct responsibility and will conclude that work. With respect to governance, we also have a role. If Mr. Barry or Mr. Neely come back to me, having conducted that report and see...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I will look at that to see but I do not believe it is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I would not rule that out at this stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: No one has mentioned that to me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I expect to do so, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: We indicated six months, which is the sort of timescale I believe is reasonable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: It has its statutory timelines for proper disclosures for managing that but, again, while it is appropriate for Ministers to follow due process in that and not to start trying to manage it themselves, my message to them is that I would give them the same direction as I have given to Mr. Neely and Mr. Barry, which is that they should proceed with as much haste as possible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I presume, but one has to be careful here in respect of how protected disclosures are done, which is to ensure that it is done under proper due process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: As I have said, part of the problem is that there has been a great deal of political discussion on this, and it is a very significant issue, together with media commentary. I have no problem with the media commentary but I am not too sure that my adding a further political dimension in the nature of who is at fault, to blame or who said what to whom, would actually benefit Inland Fisheries...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: I had appointed a senior counsel-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: The senior counsel was looking at the whole operation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: Assumptions are being made or accusations, in the sense of some of the ways in which this is being presented, of a relationship within the Department, the management or others. There is due process and one cannot assume that just because someone says something-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: The assumption that because an accusation is made of someone in management, let us say, that it is by definition, correct-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: It does not matter if there have been multiple or single. One cannot just accept what one hears on the vine as being gospel and that we will act on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Inland Fisheries Ireland: Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications (7 Mar 2023)

Eamon Ryan: Such is the protection of protected disclosures; I do not have the exact details but there is a reasonable number in each case.

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