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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will follow up the matter. No. 1695C is correspondence, dated 25 October 2018, received from Deputy John Lahart requesting the committee to make inquiries about procurement by the HSE in the engagement of two companies to provide services. The Deputy has asked the committee to request the Comptroller and Auditor General to report on whether the HSE and the National Ambulance Service...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is the Deputy suggesting we return the letter to the person who sent it to us and ask them to rewrite it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will not circulate it. We will ask the secretariat to say the committee has decided not to circulate it because of that reason and send it back to the person in question. If they want to write to us without items such as those in the letter, we will happily accept a letter without those issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, rather than mentioning names.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a good suggestion. Nos. 1596 C, 1597 C and 1604 C are pieces of correspondence from an individual who is alleging cover up by senior HSE and Tusla staff regarding retrospective allegations of abuse and with regard to his own employment. The correspondence refers to specific individuals and contains a considerable amount of personal information relating to the individual and his...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will hold this over in case anyone wants to examine that correspondence and come back to it next week. No. 1692 C is a copy of correspondence sent to the office of the Comptroller and Auditor General from an anonymous correspondent, dated 18 October 2018, regarding governance issues, control failures and misuse of public funds and employment matters relating to the last interim chief...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The HSE and the State Claims Agency are here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: They are here today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The HSE and the State Claims Agency will appear before us to deal with CervicalCheck.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: He will be here shortly so we can raise that issue very soon.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Do we have a reply from NAMA? We will follow it up. We have not seen the reply. Our first letter to it asked questions and we had to write a second letter to it about Project Nantes. That only went out when we-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: That was the second letter we sent out so we will follow that up. The next items concerns statements and accounts received since our meeting last week. There are three such accounts and statements. The list is being put on the board. One is the Dublin and DĂșn Laoghaire Education and Training Board. There is a clear audit opinion. Attention is drawn to a material level of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will ask the secretariat to circulate the statement. If anybody wants to follow it up in detail next week, we will do so. There is no point in writing to it for information if it is already in its annual report, which is available to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: People can read the full details of that in the annual report and financial statement, which is available. I will ask the secretariat to send an email.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: I do not know. As a result of our work here, some extra resources were given for the finance function for various education and training boards, ETBs. That is really as a result of our work in the past 18 months in the sector. Additional staff have been appointed to the finance sections in each of the department to try to deal with the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: There is the centralised function.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We know each education and training board has an internal audit committee but the question is how many of them have had the resources to carry out some internal audit work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The unit might be in Cavan.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is the internal audit function on a shared basis for all the education and training boards. I suspect some education and training boards have had no internal audit work carried out-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (8 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We need to write to the Department to ask for the number of internal audit programmes or work carried out for each of the education and training boards. We can then see where are the gaps. We need to get that.

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