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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It went to €440,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: That is the only thing that is different.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It was a remarkably similar agreement. There is a €5,000 difference despite the fact that we were in an awful situation with the country in lockdown. I will leave that there because people can make up their own minds on it. Mr. Lynch talked about Ms Geraldine O'Leary being truthful. She could not remember who gave instructions or whose idea it was for all of this. We got a document...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It has different directors who would have made a decision. Did it fund that from its fund or from RTÉ's central fund?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It is not the RTÉ fund.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: There is still a surplus in that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: For how long has Deloitte been the auditor? Did it audit all of these accounts? We now know there are three entities to the barter accounts. Did Deloitte audit all of them and how long has it been the auditor?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: This was not picked up until 2022.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: The circular arrangement in relation to Renault and Ryan Tubridy was not picked up until 2022.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: We were told the other day that the €120,000 that is being investigated was not paid to Ryan Tubridy. RTÉ and Grant Thornton are looking for that €120,000 but there seems to have been some convoluted way of apportioning that. I do not know why it would be apportioned if it was not paid. Did Deloitte pick up anything on any of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: When was that presented?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Was there a note in the audit about it?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I would have thought, if something was a little unusual, that attention would be drawn to it in the audit.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: If the Comptroller and Auditor General was auditing this, would he have drawn attention to that kind of thing?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I want to go back to the legal document over which the witnesses are claiming privilege. The person was not being advised on rights or entitlements. Was it not the case this was around the consideration of a contract? Would that not be legal assistance rather than anything else?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: When is Ms Mullooly likely to have that review?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It would have been helpful to have that matter resolved by now. Going back to the redundancy issue, we were told there were two sets of redundancies, which were in the public domain. There were the redundancies in 2017. We were told Breda O'Keeffe was party to the 2017 redundancy package. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I had understood she was still there in 2020.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Then there was a 2019 exit package. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Was she the most senior person who exited, as Mr. Lynch recalls? He would have been involved or would have had a responsibility, as would the director general and the HR person, to sign off on this. Is it right to say he would have considered this?

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