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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: That is great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: The intention is to be perplexing and confusing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: On governance, which Professor Maher referred to in her statement, can she offer a view on the rolling consent mechanism? Every four years a vote must be taken by the assembly. Some safeguards have been inserted into the provisions which mean, effectively, that one side cannot scupper the other. If, for example, the assembly is collapsed and Stormont is not sitting, nothing changes and the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: How interesting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: I take that point. I mean that there would be no Border and the status quo would be maintained.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: It is interesting that Professor Maher suggested that the Good Friday Agreement structures should be invoked in the event that perhaps the DUP did not turn up to vote. Its argument is that the Good Friday Agreement is being ignored because the principle of consent that governs politics in Northern Ireland is not applied in this new agreement. That is the problem down the line.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: The DUP genuinely believes that it is correct in its position and it is not for me to tell it how to think.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: It would be an interesting conversation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: On the issue of products that cannot be stockpiled, Professor Hervey outlined two options, namely, that we either reduce our reliance on the UK in respect of products coming from there, or being authorised or travelling through there, or ensure supply through a more legally robust framework or system. Is reducing reliance, first and foremost, the optimal step to take, with the second option...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: That is a fair point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: I appreciate Professor Hervey's honesty on the matter. The issue of substances of human origin is interesting because it is not as easily to predict what is needed, and we in the House have much work to do in that regard. Ireland has a significant reliance on the UK in that sphere. Has Professor Hervey any advice as to what we should do domestically to try to protect the connection?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: Yes, there are plans for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: Thankfully.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: It is good advice for us to understand the scale. It will probably be our starting point and we can decide what we need to do thereafter. The cross-border treatment directive is used frequently in Ireland. Irish citizens, as well as other, non-Irish EU citizens who reside in the State, often travel to Northern Ireland to avail of treatment such as hip or knee replacements or cataract...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: The bottom line is a new arrangement will be needed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: It was 2019. Basically, it was not amended.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: They must also apply for the extension by the end of June next year. If we are coming out of a general election and a party has won on a promise that it will not extend the transition, that party is probably not going to apply for it in six months.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: It could take two years for ratification.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Implication of Brexit for Health Law in Ireland and EU: Discussion (6 Nov 2019)

Lisa Chambers: Toxic.

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