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Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Amendments Nos. 176 to 180, inclusive, have all been discussed with amendment No. 1.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: As the Bill has now completed Committee Stage, it is recommended that members submit Report Stage amendments to the Bills Office without delay as Report Stage may be tabled at short notice. When does the Minister expect Report Stage to take place?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I thank the members, the Minister and his officials for attending and completing Committee Stage in an orderly manner.

Select Committee on Health: Message to Dáil (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: In accordance with Standing Order 90, the following message will be sent to the Dáil:The Select Committee on Health has completed its consideration of the Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018 and has made one amendment thereto.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: On behalf of the committee I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Jim Daly, who is standing in for the Minister, Deputy Harris, in view of the extraordinary Cabinet meeting being held this morning. I thank him for standing in. I also welcome the interim director general of the HSE, Mr. John Connaghan, who is accompanied by Ms Anne O'Connor, deputy director general and chief operations...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: We will commence our engagement with the health spokespersons. Deputy Stephen Donnelly is first. It is proposed to have a ten minute engagement before moving on to the next speaker. I ask members to keep their questions to that time limit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: One question Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: If the Deputy is agreeable to do that, we will do that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I thank Deputy O'Reilly. Does the Minister wish to respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I ask the Deputy to move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Deputy O'Reilly had queries relating to CervicalCheck. We will then move on to Deputy Murphy O'Mahony.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I will allow the Deputy to come back in with supplementary questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I thank Deputy Murphy O'Mahony. Before I go to Deputy Durkan, I have a number of questions, the first of which is directed to Mr. Breslin and Mr. Connaghan. Invariably, the HSE service plan, which will be produced in the next several weeks, will not deliver because of budget overruns of up to €700 million like this year. What guarantee can be given that the service plan will come in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I know the numbers are counted at a different time in a different way. Are the HSE figures published? Can we see them so we can compare them to the INMO's?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: The INMO figures are going up month on month, year on year, however.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: How can there be such a disparity between the HSE's figures and the INMO's? People are either on a trolley or they are not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Perhaps a more meaningful figure, if it could be produced, is the time a person spends on a trolley rather than the number of people on a trolley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: My final question relates to treatments versus validation. The numbers have reduced from 86,000 to 72,000. What proportion of that reduction has been validation and not treatment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (14 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: My time is up but perhaps Ms O'Connor might come in at a later date to explain why the winter initiative is so late this year. I am conscious of other members offering, and they may ask the same question but I will come back to it, if they do not.

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