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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. Does that confer an advantage on consultants pitching for further work being tendered? Is that factored in or is it an issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: You obviously tender for everything.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I would expect the Department of Justice to be compliant with that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Is there another investor programme being looked at by any other Department, or is that it?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: You tell us that property is not part of the categories.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: For example, iCare Housing bought something above 500 houses. It would have had funding through this programme. Would that have been considered something different, because it was an organisation trying to deal with homeless people?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It is different. It does have a property component to it, but not in the sense that it is an investment in property.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: For what it is worth, they were quite complimentary about you in terms of the efforts that were made.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Are there any open files on protected disclosure at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: What areas do they relate to?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: There are a number of issues. The longer the construction phase goes on, the more expensive this hospital will be. We know that it is substantially behind the original deadline. It was due to be substantially completed in January of next year, with a six month fit-out. The key paragraph in this correspondence is as follows: Regarding the date of substantial completion, we reported to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: We should be very concerned about this. I would like to acknowledge that the work in Children's Health Ireland, CHI, Tallaght and Connolly is completed. They are working very well and credit where it is due. One of the questions that was responded to in this piece of correspondence was in relation to the fit-out. It is at pains to point out that the fit-out has no bearing on the other...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: What other organisations are behind with audits? Would this be one of the big ones?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: We have all felt very frustrated over the lack of information and the non-availability of files. The most up-to-date account available to us is actually adding to that. It is very unsatisfactory. It was not just one source that Nicola Byrne from The Irish Mail on Sunday used; there were two. The Chair is absolutely right about that. If somebody has told senior paediatricians that the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I know this one quite well. The building is a protected structure and the local authority has imposed an enforcement notice on it because it does not have the benefit of planning permission, yet there was a Department contract. There is no issue regarding who is occupying the building. There was a statutory instrument that allowed for commercial or industrial buildings to be used but that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It has gone from a warning letter to an enforcement notice. It is a time-limited enforcement notice.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Yes. It may well be that it could also go to the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage because there are compliance issues. It is really about the contract, what due diligence is done in advance of contracts, and compliance with other elements of the law.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Will the Cathaoirleach clarify to what he is referring?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: There is a logic we have been following in a thread of our discussions, which can be seen to continue by way of an engagement with Sport Ireland and the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. If we are going to do a report on the whole area of sports governance, it strikes me that it makes sense to have a meeting with the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: May we have members of the IHRB in on 29 June?

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