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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: In terms of the oversight involving the Higher Education Authority, what assurances did the university give it? Were authority officials down at the university? What engagement took place? Was it over a period? Can the witnesses provide some indication of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I thank Mr. Kelly. The KPMG report is quite important in terms of knowledge. People on the previous governing authority who were involved in the decision will not, in the main, have seen the report. Is there a difficulty or potential conflict of interest identified in terms of their standing again for the governing authority? Does that put them into a position whereby there is a conflict...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Is it one person or multiple people who have challenged this in the courts?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Who is the person who took that court case?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: All right. I am sure that is available in the courts.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Why would we not say it here if that information is available in the courts?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It seems daft that something is publicly available and we cannot say it here.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I have read the documents.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: In regard to the advice received, the board or the governing council got external advice more than once and used the same consultant to get advice on valuations. From the previous discussion here we know that there was no formal written contract in regard to the Dunnes Stores site. If that external consultant was used for this valuation, on how many previous occasions was that same external...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Were there other valuers?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Why would the university have this person as one? Why would there be a long-standing arrangement with somebody who was not used?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I have some queries in regard to the briefing document given to us. There was a sum of €750,000 and another of €42,000 in regard to asbestos, both from the urban regeneration fund, relating to a fab lab, an engagement hub and a citizens' information office. Are these external to the university or are they integral to the university?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Is it integral to the work of the university?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: All in all, in the list given to us, there was €997,288 from a range of sources in relation to this building. Is that the totality of what was spent on this site?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I know Limerick quite well, and there are some lovely buildings. I know exactly where this site is. It may well be an iconic site but it is an absolutely awful building. I know the university is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear with this particular building. The master plan will obviously need to be some sort of redesign. How many students are located in this building?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Did the university know what it wanted from a building in terms of the number of students?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Did the footprint of this building meet that need or is additional space required for that? I know where UL is, and it is quite a distance outside Limerick city.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Does the footprint cater for the numbers? In the absence of a business case-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Catherine Murphy: For how many people is the building needed?

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